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Jeff's avatar

As Jefferson, Madison and surely others said long ago, a free and ignorant people has never been and never will be. Because power corrupts and the ignorant are defenseless against its wiles.

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Micheal Nash, Ph. D.'s avatar

That is why wilson and dewey subsidized ignorance in the publc schools

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Jeff's avatar

I don't doubt that some strategize to get dominance over others. But I suspect that at some points along the road to a society's subjection to tyranny or collapse there are those who are just arrogant enough to believe that they're much smarter than they are. In those cases, their goals are way too utopian, and they cause way more harm than good in the long term. And that same arrogance prevents them from recognizing the error of their strategy even when it is obvious to others. Arrogant people are always very stupid in one or more senses.

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Micheal Nash, Ph. D.'s avatar

Some aphorisms nail it likeтАж.the road to hell is paved with good intentions. However I doubt good intentions from wilson. He,fdr and others were committed europhiles and willing to bring down our Republic just to insert us into a european dominated тАЬworld governanceтАЭ. The fact that europe was socialist no hinderance

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Jeff's avatar

I defer to your knowledge of history. It seems that men who rise to high levels of power have very reckless theories of utilitarianism at best. So I wouldn't be surprised if most don't even have good intentions.

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Hanlon's razor re-tooled for the 21st century: never attribute to stupidity that which is adequately explained by malice, and always sequere pecuniam.

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Jeff's avatar

I agree in the sense that some kinds of irrationality can only be explained by a corrupt mind. To say otherwise seems to mean that many people are oblivious to the most basic understanding of logic. And yet the fact that they function in life day to day and for the most part speak coherently proves otherwise. They use logic when it advances their interests, IOW.

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

That may sufficiently define "antisocial" and "evil."

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Jeff's avatar

Yeah, I think that at the root, at least, of all intentional "evil" actions and thoughts is a disregarding of the best evidence for one's belief(s) OR a denial of the truth of the axioms that ground what we mean by "evidence." I'm betting this is always done because of a perceived conflict with one's self-interest. To be ethical is to think as rational as possible and to live accordingly to the best of one's ability.

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Micheal Nash, Ph. D.'s avatar

No so much knowlege of history as agrowing awareness of forces that have been at work in our history from maybe our revolution working to drag us into alliances with europe now meshing with the socialism movements there

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Cult-like forces, it appears.

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