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Micheal Nash, Ph. D.'s avatar

Just to set the record straight, in my mind anyway, George Washington was our greatest president. I also believe Calvin Coolidge the second best based on his rigid adherence to our Constitution, something none of the others have managed to accomplish.

P.s. agree with everything you said about Trump but he may well be all we will have offered for our vote

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T.'s avatar

Michael,

I do not know enough about GW, or CC to say anything more that what I already have. I do not, nor did I study history, to my own detriment.

I can say, however, that "during my lifetime", he was the greatest President I was aware of.

I will vote for him again. At this point, if he came out and spoke the truth about the vaccine, it's injuries, and what's going on with it, then maybe he would attain more admiration, followers, truth seekers in his corner, vs the skeptics who exist today. I don't see him coming clean about this issue, but then again, I have been surprised by him in the past.

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Dennis Sullivan's avatar

I learned a little bit about Coolidge and how the international financiers worked behind his back and stabbed him in the back and brought on a Depression. I worked in science and knew little about our presidents in the first half of the 20th century. I realize in my old age how complicated history can be.

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Shelley's avatar

Very complicated Dennis. Coolidge was a federalist in his actions as President. The States were to hold all the powers not vested in the USG. He was a thoughtful, caring, religious man who lost a young son while Pres. I have always referred to the international financiers as the financial founding families, the same ones that start all the wars, instituted the U.N. and run the world today, hidden behind the scenes. Probably just a coincidence they are all Jewish.

тАЬOur government rests upon religion. It is from that source that we derive our reverence for truth and justice, for equality and liberality, and for the rights of mankind. Unless the people believe in these principles they cannot believe in our government. There are only two main theories of government in our world. One rests on righteousness and the other on force. One appeals to reason, and the other appeals to the sword. One is exemplified in the republic, the other is represented by despotism.

The government of a country never gets ahead of the religion of a country. There is no way by which we can substitute the authority of law for the virtue of man. Of course we endeavor to restrain the vicious, and furnish a fair degree of security and protection by legislation and police control, but the real reform which society in these days is seeking will come as a result of our religious convictions, or they will not come at all. Peace, justice, humanity, charityтАФthese cannot be legislated into being. They are the result of divine grace.тАЭ

тАХ Calvin Coolidge

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James Goodrich's avatar

Amen Shelley as usual!!

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Dennis Sullivan's avatar

Shelley: I made a copy of the response you sent. I will go to a library and see if I can find a decent book about Coolidge. Like others I know almost nothing about him and the early presidents.

I reread Carr's book Pawns In The Game and Knuth's Empire In The City. I have a lot of books, articles on Freemasonry. It all started in the mid 60s with high school where we read None Dare Call It Treason. But what I like most of all is sites like this where I can get information from those who have followed this stuff and try to make sense out of all of it. I have had no one to educate me about this stuff.

As I get older I feel a loathing for those who used our men and women as pawns in wars such as I learned in USMC late 60s and later in the US Army (where I had a trade) but still worked with infantry, medics, arty, and engineers. I see why older people get sad when they remember the faces of people killed in their youth.

We have our own version of communists who like Lenin and others enjoy destroying.

Malone comes up with great topics.

From the beginning we knew the Ukraine war was fiendish.

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Shelley's avatar

Ditto, ditto, ditto!

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D D's avatar

Just curious Shelley, How did you file the "grab em by the pussy" comment and so many other crass remarks about men and women. Even the comments made about some military people were so repugnant to me. Someone who is so good at crass name calling and many dubious business dealings (and I know you know what they are) keeps me off his team. When he was a democrat, did you notice him then?

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Shelley's avatar

In reading the scriptures it is clear that God can and has selected certain individuals for certain tasks. I am not saying the DJT is ordained, but regardless of the many offenses you find with him, it might just be his calling. He was not the wrecking ball many think he was. We all have worts, some just are not that easily discernable.

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T.'s avatar

DJT (in public) is an egotistical, self centered, pompous ass, and i attribute this to his upbringing, his exposure to wealth, and his numerous successes he's been graced enough to be part of, in his life. He projects to the world that he is a big, tough guy, and don't mess with him, or he'll kick your ass. The opposite is really true.

Just look at his hands, and you can tell this guy couldn't fight his way out of a ripped paper shopping bag. Look at his suits, which have padding in them to make him appear more muscular. He wouldn't know a 10 lb dumbell from Mitch Mconnell, but I digress

Lol

DJT is really a humble, caring, and quite a bit insecure with regards to how he feels about himself as a "manly man". This is why he uses this projection, and boasts about his accomplishments all the time. If he wasn't so insecure, he would never mention the things, he constantly does.

How many times can I hear about him getting all the ventilators? How he got the greatest vaccine ever out there? The greatest US economic recovery? Most beautiful wife and family, and so on.

People who are secure in how they feel about themselves, never talk about it, never mention their accomplishments, never brag about the things they got done, because those feats all speak for themselves. Humble, DJT is not in public, and most likely never will be.

Otoh, I know someone who was on his security detail as President, and said he was kind, considerate, generous, and extremely humble away from the cameras.

I also know someone DJT commissioned a project with, who said the same exact thing.

DJT in person, away from the spotlight, is not the same man you would think, based upon all these episodes where he acts like the misogynistic jackass, all men are capable of being. This is why I'm so conflicted with his ongoing push on the jab, as it violates the entire premise of all that I've heard from those who have had personal interactions with him.

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Shelley's avatar

I heard early on he built one of his golf courses when he found out the nearby one did not allow blacks.

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Dennis Sullivan's avatar

In 1971 after getting out of the USMC I delivered mail in Jamaica Estates, Queens, NY- didn't know about Trump, but I heard that he was tall guy who protected the short and young kids from the bullies. He did throw fists.

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Shelley's avatar

Did you serve in Vietnam?

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T.'s avatar

Ditto

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Shelley's avatar

I had no idea who he was until he ran for pres in 2015. Never lived on the east coast or watched TV.

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T.'s avatar

Ditto

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oldguy52's avatar

DD, How do you know DJT was ever really a democrat? Yes, he may have been registered as a democrat back in the days of JFK/Humphrey styled democrats, but those guys are pretty much extinct these days. It would seem to me that to do business in NYC one would be at a huge disadvantage if the people you were trying to do business with knew you weren't a democrat. I would posit that he just allowed people to think he was a democrat. Cancelation for democrats is not a new thing. It's just a lot less subtle now than it used to be.

Also, I learned, mostly the hard way, after 30 years in business, not to put too much stock in the rantings of sore losers.

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Randall Stoehr's avatar

Why does it always seem to be a personal decision between the lesser of two evils?

Anyone else grab this notion of "Is this the best we get to pick from" as repeating and repeating after JFK/MLK/RFK demise?

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