I believe young people worship themselves and reject anything that they perceive as making their lives difficult. And traditions are viewed as restrictive and making peoples lives difficult. Rejection of Traditionalism / traditions has been ongoing since the baby boomers made their break in the 60s. All traditions such as having children…
I believe young people worship themselves and reject anything that they perceive as making their lives difficult. And traditions are viewed as restrictive and making peoples lives difficult. Rejection of Traditionalism / traditions has been ongoing since the baby boomers made their break in the 60s. All traditions such as having children, getting married and staying faithful to 1 person, going to church every sunday, hard work, meritocracy, community involvement, family reunions, abortion should be frowned upon, etc are all gone and only clung to by a small minority of us. BUT, some places these traditions remain such as in India and a few pockets in the USA and other areas. Go to church, get married, have children in that order.
1) absolutely, this is a multigenerational social decay, could not have happened all ot once, hippies had babies and they were punks and their babies were grunge and extreme and now they are parents and think it is normal to go to Drag Queen reading hour with their children and even give them sterilizing hormones and undergo surgery to affirm their gender. Thats the trajectory.
2) still hanging onto a branch in the screaming insane river once known as California, but I have to hand it to the Mexicans and other Central/South Americans here, they aren't falling for this baloney, hard workers, family oriented and friendly like I remember humans used to be.
I am very interested in your opinions of the hippies at the time when you were left to be a parent on your own.
You do not hear that side too often do you? I don't. Its all about the greatness.
But it ripped the social structure of families apart and redefined relationships.
And did little to actually stop the war, if anything, it gave the antiwar movement an ugly face, an easy target.
Perhaps this is is myth, but somewhere I read Abbie Hoffman once said, "we had a real good anti war movement going on, we were doing things, and then all these hippies showed up. Where did they come from?"
Makes the Laurel Canyon conspiracy appear valid, imo.
Parents on drugs not a perfect environment for a child. Of course there were differences. Some couples better than others. However drugs and often sex were in 24/7 supply. I'm raised very conservative. Not my cuo of tea. I know for some Marijuana is at least psychologically addictive and can lead to other drugs. My husband was given his first marijuana cigarette by a Frat brother. He had lived a life of big expectations by his mom. He was often written up in his local paper as first in everything she pushed him to try. I think Marijuana was the first time he relaxed. Went on to LSD and eventually heroin. After the war ended he got his life together. Somewhat! Became a carpenter and remarried. Died at age 49 of throat cancer. He was a nice, decent kid. Our daughter is outstanding in her constant kindness to other people.
My take is that the phenomenon originates as two parts incessant war, one part iPhone and social media. Incessant wars send the ones with the traditional values off to be killed, usually for no good reason. Our country has been doing this since, well, forever. Who's left to reproduce? Now take the offspring and give them all an iPhone and social media. Not so much a mystery when distilled to the essence...jmo of course.
Pocket yes indeed. I see families at the grocery store, three and four kids in tow wither with mom or dad or both. Possibly a fallout from parents who focus on the children and not the family unit that works and plays together where everyone pitches in and gets a sense of self worth.
I completely agree. From my personal experience, my husband traveled for work, I worked in the community, worked with my speech impaired son and started a small business. We held family, routine, tradition high. I was the un fun Parent and no cell phones in high school or electronic games. Both sons high achieving scholars. Both workers outside home. Yet a skeptical outlook that the traditional method may not be worth effort. Dating is hard. Gaming is easy. They save for a home...each different towns, but really desire acres. They too fall into the minimalist. No TV, no stuff except gaming. At home we volunteered and churched. It’s like they prefer sleep.
My conclusion from my own college dating. I would never date someone who didn’t have a passion for life and working hard and enjoying the journey.
Therefore, I do think their choices are selfish and to me, boring and lonely. I cannot understand why.
I believe young people worship themselves and reject anything that they perceive as making their lives difficult. And traditions are viewed as restrictive and making peoples lives difficult. Rejection of Traditionalism / traditions has been ongoing since the baby boomers made their break in the 60s. All traditions such as having children, getting married and staying faithful to 1 person, going to church every sunday, hard work, meritocracy, community involvement, family reunions, abortion should be frowned upon, etc are all gone and only clung to by a small minority of us. BUT, some places these traditions remain such as in India and a few pockets in the USA and other areas. Go to church, get married, have children in that order.
1) absolutely, this is a multigenerational social decay, could not have happened all ot once, hippies had babies and they were punks and their babies were grunge and extreme and now they are parents and think it is normal to go to Drag Queen reading hour with their children and even give them sterilizing hormones and undergo surgery to affirm their gender. Thats the trajectory.
2) still hanging onto a branch in the screaming insane river once known as California, but I have to hand it to the Mexicans and other Central/South Americans here, they aren't falling for this baloney, hard workers, family oriented and friendly like I remember humans used to be.
Most hippies quit after Vietnam ended. Became employed and moved to the suburbs.
Because it was a social fad and not anything real outside of co-opting the anti-war movement.
All college kids or graduates. My husband dropped out of college to join the movement. I didn't do drugs so didn't fit in. Left to raise our daughter.
And there you go.
That is exactly what I am talking about.
I am very interested in your opinions of the hippies at the time when you were left to be a parent on your own.
You do not hear that side too often do you? I don't. Its all about the greatness.
But it ripped the social structure of families apart and redefined relationships.
And did little to actually stop the war, if anything, it gave the antiwar movement an ugly face, an easy target.
Perhaps this is is myth, but somewhere I read Abbie Hoffman once said, "we had a real good anti war movement going on, we were doing things, and then all these hippies showed up. Where did they come from?"
Makes the Laurel Canyon conspiracy appear valid, imo.
Parents on drugs not a perfect environment for a child. Of course there were differences. Some couples better than others. However drugs and often sex were in 24/7 supply. I'm raised very conservative. Not my cuo of tea. I know for some Marijuana is at least psychologically addictive and can lead to other drugs. My husband was given his first marijuana cigarette by a Frat brother. He had lived a life of big expectations by his mom. He was often written up in his local paper as first in everything she pushed him to try. I think Marijuana was the first time he relaxed. Went on to LSD and eventually heroin. After the war ended he got his life together. Somewhat! Became a carpenter and remarried. Died at age 49 of throat cancer. He was a nice, decent kid. Our daughter is outstanding in her constant kindness to other people.
Yes
My take is that the phenomenon originates as two parts incessant war, one part iPhone and social media. Incessant wars send the ones with the traditional values off to be killed, usually for no good reason. Our country has been doing this since, well, forever. Who's left to reproduce? Now take the offspring and give them all an iPhone and social media. Not so much a mystery when distilled to the essence...jmo of course.
Pocket yes indeed. I see families at the grocery store, three and four kids in tow wither with mom or dad or both. Possibly a fallout from parents who focus on the children and not the family unit that works and plays together where everyone pitches in and gets a sense of self worth.
I completely agree. From my personal experience, my husband traveled for work, I worked in the community, worked with my speech impaired son and started a small business. We held family, routine, tradition high. I was the un fun Parent and no cell phones in high school or electronic games. Both sons high achieving scholars. Both workers outside home. Yet a skeptical outlook that the traditional method may not be worth effort. Dating is hard. Gaming is easy. They save for a home...each different towns, but really desire acres. They too fall into the minimalist. No TV, no stuff except gaming. At home we volunteered and churched. It’s like they prefer sleep.
My conclusion from my own college dating. I would never date someone who didn’t have a passion for life and working hard and enjoying the journey.
Therefore, I do think their choices are selfish and to me, boring and lonely. I cannot understand why.