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To be clear, I am adding this into the text right now -

From the first study discussed:

"Findings from this study are consistent with a recent Canadian study13 of over 600 maternal-child pairs in the Calgary cohort of the Alberta Pregnancy Outcomes and Nutrition study.

The study found that exposure to drinking water fluoridated at 0.7 mg/L throughout pregnancy was associated with symptoms of executive dysfunction, including poorer inhibitory control, and decreased cognitive flexibility among children aged 3 to 5 years"

(This was measured by urinary concentrations in pregnant women).

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2818858

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Almost three decades ago Chinese researchers were able to specify the developmental neural damage caused by fluorosis in detail by examining aborted fetuses ( http://www.dealmortgage.net/fluoride-class-action/chinese-1996-study.pdf ). They found neural dysplasias where noradrenaline and related receptor levels are depressed while adrenaline levels are elevated by fluoride.

The net effect one would predict from this is that later in life you get all the bad glucogenic and immunological effects of chronically-high cortisol levels (which are stimulated by adrenaline), while sympathetic neural responses are downregulated due to the low noradrenaline levels, leading to behavioral conditions such as depression, anxiety, chronic fatigue, and attention deficits.

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Communist China had one big experiment with water fluoridation, then stopped it because parents are complaining about fluorosis in their children. They will never again add fluoride to tap water. The Chinese had a lot of people with high fluoride in their well water, which caused crippling skeletal fluorosis. That problem has apparently been dealt with. China supports the fluoride scientists who are concerned about fluoride's toxic effects. But in the U.S. the science agencies and government do not car much about fluoride's toxic effects. You probably know why.

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...and Mayor Gondek and city council are planning to ADD this poison back into the southern Alberta drinking water supply - to communities that have supply agreements, pay taxes and have zero representation. Children in Strathmore developed fluorosis (brown teeth) years ago, so we are not keen on adding it! Thanks for bringing this to the attention of fellow Calgarians . The University of Calgary should hang their heads in shame for promoting fluoride in water, when toothpaste and toothbrushes are available in almost every retail outlet known to mankind!!!.

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Fluoride like Bromide/Bromine (clothes, cars, hot tubs, American Flour Supply (outlawed in Europe and Canada in the 90s)) are iodine blockers. Iodine is crucial for the development of a fetus and women have a 4 Times higher chance of having an autistic child if they are iodine insufficient. Iodine sufficiency can show up as low energy, inefficient metabolism or uncontrollable weight gain, goiter/thyroid swelling, weak immune system, brain fog/poor cognitive function, fibroids and fibroid cysts, breast cancer….i could go on and on. Suffice to say that Fluoride is designed to make us sick, not to prevent tooth decay

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Yes and the medical industrial complex doesn’t want you to know about how iodine can kill all the bacteria in your mouth that causes cavities and bad breath. Instead, they use fluoride to reduce the dental decay by about 30 to 50 percent. But as you noted fluorine/flouride replaces iodine in the thyroid resulting in a weakened immune system and mental health issues. So, instead of using iodine to kill 100% of the cavity causing bacteria in your mouth, the dental community uses this inferior product that kind of works, but kills your immune system.

Researchers found in two, six-month studies of more than 600 patients that twice daily antiseptic rinsing with iodine was 34% more effective than daily flossing in reducing gingivitis, and more than 10 times more effective in reducing plaque. They also found that not all bacteria killing mouthwashes are effective. The best one, with a 100% kill ratio was ioRinse Ultra. For more in-depth info on this entire subject of malfeasance by Big Pharma see my report at:

https://fact-checked.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/germ-theory.final_.2.1.pdf

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I was a dental hygienist for 22 years, and it was pounded into my head that 'topical' fluoride was a miraculous substance for all ages. Dentists wanted that extra $30 on every visit. I was doing the same thing those vilified nurses did during covid.

About 10 years ago, I had a patient who started oil-pulling every day with coconut oil. She had advanced periodontal disease and was on a 3 month schedule. After just a couple of months, her plaque score was down, she had no bleeding points, and an average of 2mm pocket reduction in her areas of moderate-advanced disease. It was an exciting thing to see!

If you want to make your own toothpaste, try coconut oil. You can add a flavoring. You can sprinkle on a smidge of baking soda. Or use it alone. It's important to use a SOFT (I use and extra-soft) toothbrush. My favorite toothbrushes are Edel-White and Dr. Collins Perio. Everything you get at the drugstore (or even the dentist's office) is too stiff, abrasive, and damaging to the tissue.

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Thank you, the Indians in Western NC, used twigs of Birch tree for toothbrushes (minty flavor)

And damn, the Romans used piss. I think it worked, also as a sex inhibitor!!!!

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🤣 The Birch twigs may have a therapeutic oil. Haven't learned about that. But the Roman thing made me laugh so hard I sneezed.

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Thanks for your insight! What about keeping the old toothbrush around for years? Since I had heard that soft was better than hard, why not go even softer with an old toothbrush? Am I missing something?

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You want bristles that contact the surface, then gently splay slightly under the gum and between teeth. If the bristles are already splayed out, they won't contact the surface properly. They're not actually softer, just misshapen and ineffective. Does that make sense?

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Yes, as in rubbing on the side of the bristles rather than the tips. Makes sense, might need to have a closer look at my toothbrush! It's not that I'm cheap, but a believer in if it ain't broke...

And may I ask, "Pray without ceasing," a lot to unpack there. Could you expound? For me, it is an awareness of my constant Companion, my Friend, my older Brother, my Lord, who walks with me, and whom I do not want to disappoint, though sometimes do. "The Way of a Pilgrim" by an Orthodox peasant wandering in 19th century Russia has a different take, which leads to asceticism. Cutting to the chase, I admire the reverence I sense with the Orthodox approach, but can't imbibe all the trappings. Yet the American Protestant scene has its own issues, not the least of which is trivialization, feel-goodism and sadly, phoniness. Where is the real Church? Can you help me here as well?

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Ah! Pray without ceasing. I agree with all or your relational points - but I would put “Savior” at the front of the line.

The Church isn’t a denomination. We ARE called to worship in fellowship; but to be effective, that fellowship must be rooted in, and only in, Scripture. Of course there will be people in different churches at different stages of their walk with Christ. And there are many, unfortunately, who don’t know Him. God’s Church is therefore those believers who continue to follow Him, regardless of other influences. This is why I put Savior first. Without the humility and gratitude of recognizing the work of Christ on the cross, without knowing how unworthy we are of His sacrifice, there can be no progress for we mere mortals.

I think you and I share the dismay, even loathing, for the “feel-good-ism”, as it’s the antithesis of humility, and lacking in proper gratitude. I have a premise. If it’s seductive - to your pride, your lusts and idolatry, etc. - then it’s a lie.

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Well, I guess we need to disagree somewhere, otherwise one of us would be unnecessary… Okay, just kidding. My default use of “Lord” anticipates the valid criticism leveled at those who think of “Savior” only, leaving out the “Lord” part while enjoying the benefits of salvation. I know this doesn’t apply to you, so perhaps we can agree that in my use of the term “Lord”, that “Savior” is implicit as well, as is yours vice versa, and that my ascending list leaves the best, and most important, to last. But thank you for responding to my quick change of topic; your “pray without ceasing” strikes an important chord, one of a much-needed Biblical fidelity and that of an eternal perspective.

My wife and I are in between established churches now. Yet, “where two or more are gathered together,” we had our communion time this morning. We of course acknowledged and recognized His physical suffering, but remarkably, that wasn’t all. “Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise Him; He has put Him to grief, when You make His soul an offering for sin.” And, “He shall see the labor of His soul and be satisfied.” And, “For He shall pour out His soul unto death.” We talked about His experience in the Garden, with sweat as drops of blood, and recognized that this was a manifestation of the suffering of His soul already, before the actual event. Making matters even more challenging for Him, to know that He could have ended it with a snap of His fingers, with twelve legions of angels standing by to be summoned. Yet, “He was led as a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before its shearers is silent, so He opened not His mouth.” Have to go now. Tears flowing.

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Likewise. You are blessed in your marriage, Sir.

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One of the latest psychological warfare episodes is birthed in a "biography" of Queen Elizabeth II, that she "disliked" Donald Trump and found him to be "rude." I remember commenting at the time they met that one could tell from the look on her face quite the contrary, that she genuinely liked Donald J. Trump, as contrasted to her opinion of his predecessor.

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Information also on how Fluoride can negatively affect gut and oral microbiome making me rethink my choice in toothpaste

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And mouthwash!

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RETHINK ALL NATURAL TOOTH PASTE.

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This completely explains why the rabid leftist vermin tend to infest the cities.

Apparently, well or spring water kills the brain worms before they get big enough, to cause enough dain bramaged, for the kids to turn into democrat rats.

Send your kids to a summer camp., no where near city water. One summer will probably kill the brain worms.

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Influenced by an interview I heard many years ago on public radio, I stopped using toothpaste (I use just water) when I was still a teenager. My teeth are no worse off for it, though I don't drink coffee or much tea. If I did, those drinks would probably turn my teeth brown.

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I was told the same thing in dental school (graduated 1999) that Jill Malone was told in 1984 - that the most benefit for preventing cavities is when the mother drinks fluoridated water when the fetus is developing, so the hydroxyapatite in tooth buds becomes "fluoridated" and therefore more resistant to decay. I no longer believe the benefits of fluoride exposure outweigh the risks, and I never recommend it in my practice.

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Someone here mentioned bike helmets the other day and that got me thinking about unintended consequences. It would be amusing if the consequence of unintended consequences was not often so bad. Particularly so re personal safety. I was never a fan of air bags and sympathized with a Brit who griped about them saying....if the bloody Yanks had only used their bloody seat belts...... and I agree. So now we have "safety experts" telling us the 10/2 grip on the wheel we were taught is now unsafe because of those air bags...we should now grip 9/3. But real experts, i.e., racing drivers, told us10/2 gave the best control, i.e., the safest grip. So now for our safety we are encouraged to drive in a manner more likely for us to need those air bags.

Same with bike helmets? Do not remember all that many head injuries when a kid (pre helmets) but busted arms more common then likely because of a natural tendency to protect the head with your arms in a spill. Today we seem to hear of quite serious head injuries perhaps because wearing helmets offers a false sense of head security but they actually do not protect as well as advertised. So not so much protection is being offered after all? Perhaps we need to learn to rely more on our common sense for a host of things than on experts.

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I do ride my e-bike with a helmet. I am 73, and the thing can go 20 mph. Been an avid bike rider since I was a kid. Never saw a bike helmet until the late 1980s. I got a styrofoam one then. Found it helpful when going into caves because there were always thing to bump heads on. Never yet needed a helmet on my bike though i always wear it. = Voodoo to not tempt fate.

On topic I have had well water since I was 23. I don't even know whether my municipal water was fluoridated as a kid.

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Well water can be high in fluoride or low in fluoride. You never know until it's tested.

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Ours was periodically from both places we have lived: No Flouride. We were worried more about farm run off, particularly in our current location.

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Our well water had high calcium, because of a civil war era cemetery next to us. We got a 3 stage filtration system put in because we didn't like the idea of drinking dead people.

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Was the area substrate mainly limestone?

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Not to our knowledge. Blue Ridge Mountains in Virginia, so most likely granite. But run off from a cemetery from the days when unembalmed people were buried in unsealed wooden caskets. Yikes.

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Check out the Lumos helmet. It has lights front and back. More than that, it directs drivers to look at your face and see a human, not just a stupid bike in their way. The front light is not bright enough for unlit areas, but is enough in the dark if you have streetlights.

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I will. I have a multi flashing tail light with turn signals and a horn the controller is on my handlebar. Separate Headlight with several brightness settings and little flashing LEDs

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All excellent and helpful - and only highlight the bike, which is an obstacle to driver. I’ve been treated better by drivers since adding a light on my head and making them see the person aboard the annoyance.Ha!

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I did look up the Lumos helmets. Do you have a model you use and/or recommend?

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I got mine so long ago, they only had one model! Having said that, mine is a road bike type helmet, pretty standard but for the lights.

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Ditto with back yard tackle football. Once a guy puts on a lot of pads, he hits a lot harder. No pads, no real hard hits.

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Just like c.d.c decided monkey bars unsafe. They should have stuck to doing what they knew how to do. Now they do not even know how to do that

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Likely also a tendency to be less cautious when wearing a helmet- the helmet of invincibility !! 😉

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If fluoride was so good, and so safe, we would be able to choose it or not. Most of us are not allowed to choose. Choosing not fluoride is intentionally more expensive. Giving us choices is dangerous - to the medical establishment. Several years ago I wrote my toothpaste rant https://personalhealthfreedom.blogspot.com/2011/09/toothpaste-rant.html about trying to buy a toothpaste without fluoride. It's only gotten worse, not better. Sensodyne - a mainstay of no fluoride for many years, has switched. TOM's has be bought by the fluoride cartel and now you can "choose" fluoride or not. Modern medicine has no interest in teeth healthiness, it's not profitable. But tooth sickness, and prevention of tooth sickness, is profitable - no matter what the cause.

to your health, tracy

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From a strictly refereed research perspective, fluoride does reduce caries. It is not intended to be ingested, topical Gels together with trays are the most effective method of application. Calcium apatite and fluoride ions are the same size and the charge allows exchange of one for the other via ionic exchange. The result is harder more caries resistant tooth structure. This is fact. So, if you are susceptible to caries either due to embryonic maladies in dentition formation, malocclusion/crowding, high fevers during amelogenesis (enamel formation), or poor diet consisting of repetitive acid exposure, and/or poor hygiene-- fluoride therapy is a good idea... that is if you wish to keep your teeth. If not, let them rot. Please note medical maladies attendant to the sequelaeoif poor hygiene can be fatal

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All water filtered to remove fluoride & vitamin d every day of my life. Main motivation was to remove pesticides that may be in water as I am in a rural area, but I'll take the fluoride removal as a plus.

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You must mean you TAKE vitamin D, not filter it.. .. ?!

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Yes indeed. I only use fluoride as an insecticide.

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Fluoride reduces Vitamin D and Magnesium - 12 studies

https://vitamindwiki.com/tiki-index.php?page_id=14674

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This is good data. I see it (fluoride) as basically a poison. I was happy, also, to get my amalgam fillings replaced with ceramic many years ago, although this resulted in one root getting infected, which required the tooth to be removed.

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This has been an issue for a very long time.

I know of no one involved in the original decision to dump fluoride waste products into our drinking water supply who has come forward to explain themselves. But the impression is that the sequence was 1) the fertilizer industry needed a cheap way to get rid of its fluoride wastes; 2) someone decided that it will benefit the public health to dump it in the water.

https://origins.osu.edu/article/toxic-treatment-fluorides-transformation-industrial-waste-public-health-miracle

I believe there has been push back on this narrative. But considering the historic honesty level of governments and big businesses, this is quite possibly the true story.

Drugging people against their will by putting drugs in their drinking water could today be considered a violation of their basic human rights. Also, the fluoride used to treat teeth is not meant to be ingested. The entire plan seems deeply flawed from many points of view.

This is only one of many scams perpetrated on the general public by groups who sought to benefit in some way. The secrecy around these scams have kept them working, some for a very long time. It is unlikely that the general public will be disabused of most of these lies any time soon. What a shame.

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That's probably not all that's being put in public water. I think back to reading old documents on ways to restrain population grow.

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I have heard exposure to fluoride through toothpaste and water over a long term exposure may be a risk factor to Alzheimer’s disease. A study found that mice exposed to low levels of fluoride for a long time had more senile plaque and worse learning and memory deficits. Another study found long term exposure to fluoride can cause spatial memory deficits.

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After I read this, I went to pubmed and I was able to confirm for you that there are studies out there - showing a link, although nothing definitive as yet. Most are retrospective, not prospective. Prospective trials cost $$$.

The gov doesn't want to fund studies, that they don't want to know the answer to.

As there probably isn't any government funding for such studies, it will take a long while for someone to actually conduct a clinical trial study of significance. As these cost $$$.

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It’s probably sensible to try and limit fluoride intake period. It just seems the more they say there’s no proof this will harm you or your child, especially all 70 something childhood vaccines, the more you should be leery of them.

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I do recall reading German research back in the early 1920-1930's of the impact on brain development? Again, this information is not new. I'm glad it is getting some circulation, though.

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Our countries leaders are essentially bought and paid for health terrorists by stupidity. I don't know how to fix it.

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unfortunately there are no pills for common sense... they are very much needed.

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Big Pharma defines and finances the current medical paradigm keeping sick people alive and keeping well people healthy. This was revealed big time during the COVID scamdemic and is behind the declining overall health we are seeing in our culture. Big Pharma’s corrupt regulatory capture is one of several issues that need to be addressed next administration

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Clarification…keeping sick people alive shoving pills at them vs well people healthy

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I'm pretty sure the Constitution covers it. And the founding 'fathers' wrote copiously about it.

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I guess the only thing left as a conspiracy theory to convert, given that:

-Atrazine really does make boy frogs girl frogs

-Covid Vax really does cause disseminated microclots and chronic health issues downstream

-No evidence exists for the efficacy of SSRI’s, just harms

-WPATH and the mental health industry really knew the harms of trans medicalization for years

The : Maybe there really are lizard people?

Or maybe Wyoming doesn’t exist?

I can trust the Lord Jesus, and that’s about it.

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I said, I said, tell it boy!!!!

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Thankfully our city does not add fluoride to our water. Did you know they make rat poisoning out of fluoride. It was a waste product of a company I don’t remember what company. The cost to despise of it cost to much so they put it into tooth paste and touted that is helped tooth decay. If you hurry you might be able to find that info before they scrub it out.

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I read that in the early 70s Melanie.. The school system where my boys went 1979-82 in Hood River county Oregon were having students rinse on school days with a flouride product. First day they tried it on my boys they said I have to ask my mom. Thankfully the school allowed for parental waivers.

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Research over the years has shown the negative effects of fluoride. But toothpastes in general doesn't seem to have been studied. Why does it say on toothpaste tubes 'do not swallow' if there isn't something in them that may be harmful to us?

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It says do not swallow because it becomes a fluorosis risk for children with teeth developing in their jaws. It also says do now swallow because fluoride is poison that can make a person sick to their stomach. There is enough fluoride in a family size tube of toothpaste to theoretically kill a small child.

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