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UK refugee's avatar

R Malone "Nobody is perfect"

True, and here you are on a journey going from believing the best of your industry to seeing the lice crawl around and no bottom to their immorality.

The longer this goes on the more obvious it is I've been blessed with a higher level of scepticism and from a life of hospital treatment and surgery knew to hold the health professionals in no higher regard. As such I knew to go nowhere near their needles this last couple of years.

But even I have been surprised at the previous level of paper publishing duplicity and trust in published papers has gone from high to low.

Where does it leave us? Decades of trust deficit?. More willing than ever to hand the keys over to autonomous AI? (with even more dangerous scenarios tied in). We need to tread carefully.

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Jack Gordon's avatar

Trust deficit. Exactly. I no longer trust my physician whom I've known for several decades. I am haunted by the mental image I have of him at my last visit in Sept. of 2021 when he told me "the vaccines are safe and effective." I knew instantly he was parroting the AMA's official line, nothing more.

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Prayinghawk144's avatar

Me too! And I was a volunteer at our local vaccine clinic. I was at every single clinic helping thousands of my neighbors get vaccinated. I was so proud and felt like we were all supporting the war efforts.. I saw quite a few seizures that happened immediately the second the virus was injected. All in the young healthy adult group. I heard many student nurses talk about their period problems. I loved my volunteer work over the last 5 years. Most valuable thing I was doing since my husband passed. I was also on the Board. Until January 31st when I have to resign because the Healthcare facilities in California have expanded their definition of "Fully Vaccinated" to include the booster. So get boosted or get fired as a volunteer. I did the risk/reward thing and the risk of the vaccine is far greater than the risk of getting the virus. Just so disappointing. Friends don't believe me or think I must be reading misinformation. Family same. They are disappointed in me. Won't let me come over because of the risk. Etc etc. And I loved this hospital. But they gave me a vaccine that put a bullet in my brain. And I repeated the IT'S SAFE promise with thousands. But it ends there. My new volunteer job.. working at every school board meeting to keep the poison away from the kids <12.

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Miss Rodeo's avatar

The hospital’s loss is the children’s gain. Thank you!

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Jen's avatar

Yes this is what I have been struggling with since the onset of COvID. My spouse is in healthcare, upper admin, and it has been a strain, at times on our marriage. I can’t tell you how many times we’ve had discussions when he comes home from work that turn into arguments/disagreements. It’s not like I’m looking for a fight but we are just discussing things and he’s my husband. It’s a comfortable space to share my worries/concerns/doubts etc…it’s been a process where finally the last disagreement ended with him saying “we just can’t talk about this, we clearly disagree”. We have to do this in order to save our marriage. COvID had destroyed so much but I think we both agree we will not let it tear us apart. He’s in the thick of it and I can’t be the one that will help him realize things are amiss. He will figure it out. I stood my ground on the booster for a while but i got it right before omicron was really coming in hard. I told him the data was what edged me. Hospitals in our areas were flooded with unvaccinated. I weighed my risk but still felt really uneasy about it. As omicron is being more understood, our family discussion involved me saying “no more forced vaccinations for me and any other variants they come up with in the future can go F-themselves.” This has been one emotional bumpy roller coaster ride since it all started.

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UK refugee's avatar

Sorry to hear that. I'm 31years post heart and lungs transplant and on heavy immunosuppression but luckily saw this shitshow for what it is instantly. Totally unvaccinated totally unafraid.

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Helen Collier's avatar

The hospitals are telling people it is the unvaxxed but they are counting people that are vaxxed as unavaxxed. If you look at the ICD codes you can see how the numbers are getting incorrectly tabulated.

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Lab Lover's avatar

In my Big 10 major University Hospital system, it's over 80% vaxxed inpatient. Complex pts w vax injuries to.....vascular and heart. Cath Lab runneth over... Few unvaxxed and out the door quick w AB intact from illness itself, even months on. Current pts usually COPDers. Transplant floors blocked off from all but their pts. Segregated in every way to keep separate from rest of units. Go and come from different entrances. NO scrubs worn coming or going. All scrubs supplied upon clock-in. Never allowed to wear street into any area that might become an OR quickly. What a mess. Still no staff since most tenured left during mandate's beginnings. They ain't comin' back!

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Jen's avatar

I’m in New England. We finally got our surge starting late August/early September and it peaked right around the holidays. My husband works for a big health system with 9 other hospitals. He’s ceo of one of them. He gets the data every night. They use the data to help them make decisions about staffing, services, visitor policies, supplies etc…

Our state(Live free or die) has a decent percentage of people not getting vaccinated. The system began running the numbers and pushing them out to the public about the ratios of COvID inpatients vaccinated/unvaccinated. Numbers across all hospitals were showing 70% of them were unvaccinated. There were also several younger people who had COVID and died, mostly new moms. I don’t know how they would mess with these numbers or why? I would like to know the age breakdown. I would also like to know if they were also sick for other reasons. I do believe the vaccine may help some individuals but not without some risk. I strongly believe it should be a choice. We need to get to a place where our docs are being honest with us about those risks, being able to honestly discuss the pros and cons. At the height of the surge here there was a huge push by most docs and some nurses to get vaccinated. They were seeing so much sickness. I think many of them feel helpless in being able to help and they are grabbing at straws(the vaccine) thinking it will save the day.

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Linden's avatar

And yet, here am I as a retired bank VP, and I knew about HCQ & IVM since March 2020!

I had the great good fortune to discover Dr. Paul Marik in April 2020, and his fledgling alliance, the FLCCC.

I have taken responsíbility for my unvaccinated health with therapeutics on hand if needed, while I watched 3 friends die of Delta, and whose families would not call for local docs experienced in these therapeutic protocols.

My own dear doctor went over to the dark side, and after 10 years, I no longer trust her. 😢

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Jen's avatar

That’s great for you! I’ve heard others who have come across doctors who are willing to not go to the dark side and try other things. I’m surrounded by docs, nurses and some are friends(before COVID) who went to the dark side. I saw it the whole time. I have felt like if I say anything I’m being political, a maga, an anti vaccer. I’ve had to bite my tongue so much these last two years. I just want to move to Florida and find new associations and friends.

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