The western nations set up the state of Israel, the Uk having a the lead role apparently. Maybe some of the blame, so to speak, for the 'Palestinian' situation there is the lack of follow-through of the west to provide for a state or territory for non -Jews. The non-Jews started fighting the jews immediately and the hatred has grown out …
The western nations set up the state of Israel, the Uk having a the lead role apparently. Maybe some of the blame, so to speak, for the 'Palestinian' situation there is the lack of follow-through of the west to provide for a state or territory for non -Jews. The non-Jews started fighting the jews immediately and the hatred has grown out of proportion to the point of the Palestinians teaching this hatred to all their children. How would you expect the younger generations to act toward the Jews?
While all that is true, it did not start there. After the Ottoman empire was defeated, the Brits assumed control of Palestine and under the Balfour Declaration in 1917 intended to open a national home for the Jewish people there. In 1922 the League of Nations told Britain to facilitate and encourage Jewish immigration and settlement on the land. The Arabs increased their attacks on the Jews that were already there and that is when, in 1936, a commission recommended partitioning the country. The Arabs rejected the idea and the Jews accepted the principle of partition. Britain established immigration restrictions on the Jews. After WWII the Brits turned the issue over to the UN after turning away many ships of Jewish refugees. It two, recommended a partition into two states. Same response, okay Jews no deal Arabs. The state of Israel was established and Jewish immigration was unimpeded.
I have an interest in this only because I believe there became two sets of ‘Jewish’ people. Those descending from Jacob (Israel) and those descending from Esau (Edom). Many Rabbis acknowledge this. They say Esau was rejected by God in favor of Israel. They have taken it further and associated Esau with Rome and Christianity. I, on the other hand, reverse that and add that the Edomites, although Hebrew, are not Jews, which was a term used very late in the telling, and originally was only associated with the progeny of Judah of Judea, one of Israel's sons, i.e. the Israelites. The Jewish people of Judea do not have a problem with the Arabs. The Edomites traveled far and wide given the rocky Mount Seir had offered little. They were the ones dispersed throughout the world.
Thank you for expanding on this for me. I comment now and then to people about this conflict going back to Abraham, but I run across an occasional person who doesn't see it that way at all and believe it is all the Jews' fault.
I have my owns views as you do but I don’t express them because I base them on a theory that I have no way of proving. I will just say that nothing is as it seems, Muslims are a late comer when it comes to the formation of a religion, and that the powers that be throughout the ages have used religions to sow discourse and marauders about the world to extend their religion, sometimes by force.
Wasn't he just a descendant of forced converts? I did not know he destroyed records. I wonder why that was so important to him. Perhaps for the same reason he killed anyone that could be a competitor?
I am trying to independently verify this, but have heard he destroyed them sometime after Jesus’ death, a King of Israel needed to be able to prove his lineage. Since he was ‘placed’ on the throne by Rome, he would have been all the more under scrutiny. Perhaps during the Jewish rebellions?
The western nations set up the state of Israel, the Uk having a the lead role apparently. Maybe some of the blame, so to speak, for the 'Palestinian' situation there is the lack of follow-through of the west to provide for a state or territory for non -Jews. The non-Jews started fighting the jews immediately and the hatred has grown out of proportion to the point of the Palestinians teaching this hatred to all their children. How would you expect the younger generations to act toward the Jews?
While all that is true, it did not start there. After the Ottoman empire was defeated, the Brits assumed control of Palestine and under the Balfour Declaration in 1917 intended to open a national home for the Jewish people there. In 1922 the League of Nations told Britain to facilitate and encourage Jewish immigration and settlement on the land. The Arabs increased their attacks on the Jews that were already there and that is when, in 1936, a commission recommended partitioning the country. The Arabs rejected the idea and the Jews accepted the principle of partition. Britain established immigration restrictions on the Jews. After WWII the Brits turned the issue over to the UN after turning away many ships of Jewish refugees. It two, recommended a partition into two states. Same response, okay Jews no deal Arabs. The state of Israel was established and Jewish immigration was unimpeded.
I have an interest in this only because I believe there became two sets of ‘Jewish’ people. Those descending from Jacob (Israel) and those descending from Esau (Edom). Many Rabbis acknowledge this. They say Esau was rejected by God in favor of Israel. They have taken it further and associated Esau with Rome and Christianity. I, on the other hand, reverse that and add that the Edomites, although Hebrew, are not Jews, which was a term used very late in the telling, and originally was only associated with the progeny of Judah of Judea, one of Israel's sons, i.e. the Israelites. The Jewish people of Judea do not have a problem with the Arabs. The Edomites traveled far and wide given the rocky Mount Seir had offered little. They were the ones dispersed throughout the world.
Thank you for expanding on this for me. I comment now and then to people about this conflict going back to Abraham, but I run across an occasional person who doesn't see it that way at all and believe it is all the Jews' fault.
I have my owns views as you do but I don’t express them because I base them on a theory that I have no way of proving. I will just say that nothing is as it seems, Muslims are a late comer when it comes to the formation of a religion, and that the powers that be throughout the ages have used religions to sow discourse and marauders about the world to extend their religion, sometimes by force.
The client King Herod was an Edomite. He also, apparently, destroyed the ancestry records of the Jews.
Wasn't he just a descendant of forced converts? I did not know he destroyed records. I wonder why that was so important to him. Perhaps for the same reason he killed anyone that could be a competitor?
I am trying to independently verify this, but have heard he destroyed them sometime after Jesus’ death, a King of Israel needed to be able to prove his lineage. Since he was ‘placed’ on the throne by Rome, he would have been all the more under scrutiny. Perhaps during the Jewish rebellions?