As you can see from my comment below, I agree that Soros & Co. are bad news. But I think it's dangerous to wish for anyone's death. That kind of thinking can lead to great ugliness that will ultimately backfire.
As you can see from my comment below, I agree that Soros & Co. are bad news. But I think it's dangerous to wish for anyone's death. That kind of thinking can lead to great ugliness that will ultimately backfire.
I grew up in a house filled with ghosts instead of relatives because of the Holocaust, so I'm all too familiar with real evil. Since we have the First Amendment, I support your and David's right to say whatever you want, but I know all too well what happens when people wish death on others.
That people in the Civilised West are calling for the Final Penalty for powerful people who have violated their trust is one thing.
That this might develop into the mob rule in your allusion is another thing.
Using the metaphorical language, we are already in the middle of a holocaust: is how it appears to those of us who are trying to assess the effects of this terrible medical intervention, which is nothing less than a gigantic betrayal.
I beg the indulgence of the readership for repeating this story from Alice Marriott's tales of the Kiowa in her "The Ten Grandmothers"
The Kiowa were a very special nation in those days. Elegant, Observant, Disciplined, they were everything that their best friend the Comanche (properly: Nurmunuh) nation were not. But the tribes were best friends and in this tale they shared a get together out somewhere in the Plains.
One of the Kiowa women had a super horse, a mare, a great runner; who had just given birth.
Her brother, drinking with the neighbours, talking of horse racing, decided to borrow the mare. His sister refused. He took the horse anyway. Won the first heat, won the second, dropped dead.
Apart from the great love and empathy that these people have for their animals, the horse is valued by the Plains Tribes as us Europeans value Gold.
The horse's owner hung herself from distress, shame, and many other feelings. Of course, her husband claimed. The tribal Council agreed, the criminal was stripped of his belongings (which were shared among the poorer member of the tribe) and his clothing, and he was sent away. You can figure.
Betrayal in a close community is obvious, that in a wider community is not so obvious. I trust you will find nothing difficult in this story. I have others, from my own family in the Peruvian Andes, of a more recent date, and others of a less fatal sentence.
People who think that Fauci and whoever else should get a second chance before eternal judgment are, in my personal opinion, not thinking clearly, and it's maybe this lazy "thinking" that has helped get us where we are today.
How many people believed that they actually NEEDED to get a "covid" "vaccination"?
?
If I shook my head in disbelief, the tears would scatter everywhere.
You folks are great. I picture a very short, very violent, bloody revolt, where those evil criminals you mentioned, are exposed, and most of them killed. I'm not an evil, violent man. Just done watching everyone doing nothing. We were given the duty to remove this government, and now it appears impossible without the methods I mentioned.
O.K. Let's talk about violence. My husband was in the last group of draftees during the Vietnam War and I spent 18 months with him while he was at Fort Benning in Columbus, GA and Redstone Arsenal in Huntsville, AL. Everyone in the military goes through basic training, where they learn how to disarm, injure, and kill. So even if they have non-violent assignments, they still have the skills. And discipline is very tight. The federal government has the military, states have National Guards, and local governments have police. Plus the feds have computer access to all the banks, which means they can block money, just as the Canadian gov't did during the truckers' blockade.
We are not 18th century France during the French Revolution. The FBI, CIA, and NSA have been preparing for national insurrection at least since the 1960's. Yes, there is uncontrolled gang warfare in cities like Chicago which can't be stopped. But that's semi-organized chaos, which is different from an insurrection.
I agree that we need to find ways to stop the fascists. I think a more workable option is the passive resistance used by Gandhi in what is now India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh and by Martin Luther King, Jr. and the Civil Rights Movement members in the South. I grew up watching the Civil Rights Movement on TV and it was extremely powerful. And it was responsible for the Civil Rights legislation of the 1960's, which changed everything, although more slowly than most of us wanted.
We can't win through old-fashioned violence because the establishment is too powerful in conventional ways. So we need to be more resourceful and look for ways that will circumvent their power.
I guess I hoping after a time the millions of free old men still ready to fight are willing to do so. The feds would have to do something so egregious as to warrant a defense, an armed defense. Depending on the level of their off'ense, would determine the level of our defense. Say the government decides next year to try to put everyone that's unvaxxed into fema camps? You going? Or fighting to the death? I know for me, they better send their best. And yes, I'm old. I just missed Vietnam myself. Luck and time made that so. Same for my brother. The current admin is our greatest enemy, and if you aren't willing to die defeating them, then I'm guessing your level of passion isn't where mine is. So yeah, the declaration made it very clear. If it all goes to shit, y'all should probably have been better prepared. It won't be pretty, but it will succeed. I'm pretty much done with the first three boxes. They've all been corrupted, stolen, and destroyed by the deep state, Soros money, people staring at their phones all day like fucking zombies. The last box is already loaded in mags, and I've thrown the box away.
devoalan, Cindy stated, "I think a more workable option is the passive resistance used by Gandhi in what is now India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh and by Martin Luther King, Jr. and...:
You stated, " if you aren't willing to die defeating them, then I'm guessing your level of passion isn't where mine is."
I do not think you understood Cindy, or ahimsa, as lived by Ghandhi. It does require being willing to die. In the US watch an old John Wayne movie, "The Badman and the Angel" illustrated this. Yes, willing to die is a requirement of non violent resistance.
A civil war is unimaginably horrible, and if the US fully entered one, it may destroy itself, and be extremely vulnerable to certain nation states.
Right now the deep state is attempting to double down, but they are losing many many battles, both nation state battles, (BRICS vs the globalists) and their battles within nations, Agenda 21 plus. (See the Dutch farmers revolt, the actions of a number of eastern Europe nations, even Mexico and parts of South America)
Within their prize, the most coveted nation they want, "The light on a hill" the USA, they are waging a war against growing resistance, against growing "States Rights" led by Florida, but many states are waking up.
Their evil is more and more exposed. Courageous and massive non violent resistance can, IMV, soundly defeat them.
I am not afraid to die if I must, I want that death to end in success, and I support the battleground of non violent resistance, as our best model for success.
Donbass ukraine showed thr way forward. They declared autonomy and then indeoendence from kiev nazis backed by the nato hyper powers. Truly david vs goliath. They defeated a genocide and survived 8 long years of invasion and shelling from nato trained and armed butchers and war crims.
Shadows of dc gulag we alreqdy see. When texas and florida declares nullification, will dc move 10k troops to occupy and shell the population? What then?
The problem of evil is recognised in peoples who have not the luxury of water, electricity, all that stuff, available "wherever you are". Breaking trust in a small community more often than not destroys the community and these communities recognise the dangers of Betrayal and do have sanctions ready to enable the community's survival - at the expense of the traitor's life.
The purer original nations of Australia and America maintain this awareness to this day.
The civilised West has adopted "redemption and forgiveness" instead. I believe that anyone who tries out the above thinking, purely to see where it goes, will easily recognise the end products of redemption etc.
Do have a go!
One problem with your statement is that we are already in the middle of great ugliness...
As you can see from my comment below, I agree that Soros & Co. are bad news. But I think it's dangerous to wish for anyone's death. That kind of thinking can lead to great ugliness that will ultimately backfire.
Please stop your pseudo moral commentary. You obviously have no concept of real evil. Soros’s real evil.
I grew up in a house filled with ghosts instead of relatives because of the Holocaust, so I'm all too familiar with real evil. Since we have the First Amendment, I support your and David's right to say whatever you want, but I know all too well what happens when people wish death on others.
We are talking about different things, Cindy.
That people in the Civilised West are calling for the Final Penalty for powerful people who have violated their trust is one thing.
That this might develop into the mob rule in your allusion is another thing.
Using the metaphorical language, we are already in the middle of a holocaust: is how it appears to those of us who are trying to assess the effects of this terrible medical intervention, which is nothing less than a gigantic betrayal.
I beg the indulgence of the readership for repeating this story from Alice Marriott's tales of the Kiowa in her "The Ten Grandmothers"
The Kiowa were a very special nation in those days. Elegant, Observant, Disciplined, they were everything that their best friend the Comanche (properly: Nurmunuh) nation were not. But the tribes were best friends and in this tale they shared a get together out somewhere in the Plains.
One of the Kiowa women had a super horse, a mare, a great runner; who had just given birth.
Her brother, drinking with the neighbours, talking of horse racing, decided to borrow the mare. His sister refused. He took the horse anyway. Won the first heat, won the second, dropped dead.
Apart from the great love and empathy that these people have for their animals, the horse is valued by the Plains Tribes as us Europeans value Gold.
The horse's owner hung herself from distress, shame, and many other feelings. Of course, her husband claimed. The tribal Council agreed, the criminal was stripped of his belongings (which were shared among the poorer member of the tribe) and his clothing, and he was sent away. You can figure.
Betrayal in a close community is obvious, that in a wider community is not so obvious. I trust you will find nothing difficult in this story. I have others, from my own family in the Peruvian Andes, of a more recent date, and others of a less fatal sentence.
People who think that Fauci and whoever else should get a second chance before eternal judgment are, in my personal opinion, not thinking clearly, and it's maybe this lazy "thinking" that has helped get us where we are today.
How many people believed that they actually NEEDED to get a "covid" "vaccination"?
?
If I shook my head in disbelief, the tears would scatter everywhere.
I wish you well!
Thanks for your reply. I think we're having a productive conversation.
You folks are great. I picture a very short, very violent, bloody revolt, where those evil criminals you mentioned, are exposed, and most of them killed. I'm not an evil, violent man. Just done watching everyone doing nothing. We were given the duty to remove this government, and now it appears impossible without the methods I mentioned.
O.K. Let's talk about violence. My husband was in the last group of draftees during the Vietnam War and I spent 18 months with him while he was at Fort Benning in Columbus, GA and Redstone Arsenal in Huntsville, AL. Everyone in the military goes through basic training, where they learn how to disarm, injure, and kill. So even if they have non-violent assignments, they still have the skills. And discipline is very tight. The federal government has the military, states have National Guards, and local governments have police. Plus the feds have computer access to all the banks, which means they can block money, just as the Canadian gov't did during the truckers' blockade.
We are not 18th century France during the French Revolution. The FBI, CIA, and NSA have been preparing for national insurrection at least since the 1960's. Yes, there is uncontrolled gang warfare in cities like Chicago which can't be stopped. But that's semi-organized chaos, which is different from an insurrection.
I agree that we need to find ways to stop the fascists. I think a more workable option is the passive resistance used by Gandhi in what is now India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh and by Martin Luther King, Jr. and the Civil Rights Movement members in the South. I grew up watching the Civil Rights Movement on TV and it was extremely powerful. And it was responsible for the Civil Rights legislation of the 1960's, which changed everything, although more slowly than most of us wanted.
We can't win through old-fashioned violence because the establishment is too powerful in conventional ways. So we need to be more resourceful and look for ways that will circumvent their power.
I guess I hoping after a time the millions of free old men still ready to fight are willing to do so. The feds would have to do something so egregious as to warrant a defense, an armed defense. Depending on the level of their off'ense, would determine the level of our defense. Say the government decides next year to try to put everyone that's unvaxxed into fema camps? You going? Or fighting to the death? I know for me, they better send their best. And yes, I'm old. I just missed Vietnam myself. Luck and time made that so. Same for my brother. The current admin is our greatest enemy, and if you aren't willing to die defeating them, then I'm guessing your level of passion isn't where mine is. So yeah, the declaration made it very clear. If it all goes to shit, y'all should probably have been better prepared. It won't be pretty, but it will succeed. I'm pretty much done with the first three boxes. They've all been corrupted, stolen, and destroyed by the deep state, Soros money, people staring at their phones all day like fucking zombies. The last box is already loaded in mags, and I've thrown the box away.
I kind of see everyone s pov and agree with parts of each pov.
But the thing is the world is bifurcating and then trifurcating. People are being harvested or at least separated like goats from sheep.
devoalan, Cindy stated, "I think a more workable option is the passive resistance used by Gandhi in what is now India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh and by Martin Luther King, Jr. and...:
You stated, " if you aren't willing to die defeating them, then I'm guessing your level of passion isn't where mine is."
I do not think you understood Cindy, or ahimsa, as lived by Ghandhi. It does require being willing to die. In the US watch an old John Wayne movie, "The Badman and the Angel" illustrated this. Yes, willing to die is a requirement of non violent resistance.
A civil war is unimaginably horrible, and if the US fully entered one, it may destroy itself, and be extremely vulnerable to certain nation states.
Right now the deep state is attempting to double down, but they are losing many many battles, both nation state battles, (BRICS vs the globalists) and their battles within nations, Agenda 21 plus. (See the Dutch farmers revolt, the actions of a number of eastern Europe nations, even Mexico and parts of South America)
Within their prize, the most coveted nation they want, "The light on a hill" the USA, they are waging a war against growing resistance, against growing "States Rights" led by Florida, but many states are waking up.
Their evil is more and more exposed. Courageous and massive non violent resistance can, IMV, soundly defeat them.
I am not afraid to die if I must, I want that death to end in success, and I support the battleground of non violent resistance, as our best model for success.
Donbass ukraine showed thr way forward. They declared autonomy and then indeoendence from kiev nazis backed by the nato hyper powers. Truly david vs goliath. They defeated a genocide and survived 8 long years of invasion and shelling from nato trained and armed butchers and war crims.
Shadows of dc gulag we alreqdy see. When texas and florida declares nullification, will dc move 10k troops to occupy and shell the population? What then?
Dear Co-Commenter
The problem of evil is recognised in peoples who have not the luxury of water, electricity, all that stuff, available "wherever you are". Breaking trust in a small community more often than not destroys the community and these communities recognise the dangers of Betrayal and do have sanctions ready to enable the community's survival - at the expense of the traitor's life.
The purer original nations of Australia and America maintain this awareness to this day.
The civilised West has adopted "redemption and forgiveness" instead. I believe that anyone who tries out the above thinking, purely to see where it goes, will easily recognise the end products of redemption etc.
Do have a go!
One problem with your statement is that we are already in the middle of great ugliness...
Did q shaman get any of tuis redemption and forgiveness?
Excellent question!
I would answer it I understood it.
Thanks ...
Thanks for your contribution to our productive conversation.