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O.K. Let's talk about violence. My husband was in the last group of draftees during the Vietnam War and I spent 18 months with him while he was at Fort Benning in Columbus, GA and Redstone Arsenal in Huntsville, AL. Everyone in the military goes through basic training, where they learn how to disarm, injure, and kill. So even if they have non-violent assignments, they still have the skills. And discipline is very tight. The federal government has the military, states have National Guards, and local governments have police. Plus the feds have computer access to all the banks, which means they can block money, just as the Canadian gov't did during the truckers' blockade.

We are not 18th century France during the French Revolution. The FBI, CIA, and NSA have been preparing for national insurrection at least since the 1960's. Yes, there is uncontrolled gang warfare in cities like Chicago which can't be stopped. But that's semi-organized chaos, which is different from an insurrection.

I agree that we need to find ways to stop the fascists. I think a more workable option is the passive resistance used by Gandhi in what is now India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh and by Martin Luther King, Jr. and the Civil Rights Movement members in the South. I grew up watching the Civil Rights Movement on TV and it was extremely powerful. And it was responsible for the Civil Rights legislation of the 1960's, which changed everything, although more slowly than most of us wanted.

We can't win through old-fashioned violence because the establishment is too powerful in conventional ways. So we need to be more resourceful and look for ways that will circumvent their power.

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I guess I hoping after a time the millions of free old men still ready to fight are willing to do so. The feds would have to do something so egregious as to warrant a defense, an armed defense. Depending on the level of their off'ense, would determine the level of our defense. Say the government decides next year to try to put everyone that's unvaxxed into fema camps? You going? Or fighting to the death? I know for me, they better send their best. And yes, I'm old. I just missed Vietnam myself. Luck and time made that so. Same for my brother. The current admin is our greatest enemy, and if you aren't willing to die defeating them, then I'm guessing your level of passion isn't where mine is. So yeah, the declaration made it very clear. If it all goes to shit, y'all should probably have been better prepared. It won't be pretty, but it will succeed. I'm pretty much done with the first three boxes. They've all been corrupted, stolen, and destroyed by the deep state, Soros money, people staring at their phones all day like fucking zombies. The last box is already loaded in mags, and I've thrown the box away.

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I kind of see everyone s pov and agree with parts of each pov.

But the thing is the world is bifurcating and then trifurcating. People are being harvested or at least separated like goats from sheep.

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devoalan, Cindy stated, "I think a more workable option is the passive resistance used by Gandhi in what is now India, Pakistan, and Bangladesh and by Martin Luther King, Jr. and...:

You stated, " if you aren't willing to die defeating them, then I'm guessing your level of passion isn't where mine is."

I do not think you understood Cindy, or ahimsa, as lived by Ghandhi. It does require being willing to die. In the US watch an old John Wayne movie, "The Badman and the Angel" illustrated this. Yes, willing to die is a requirement of non violent resistance.

A civil war is unimaginably horrible, and if the US fully entered one, it may destroy itself, and be extremely vulnerable to certain nation states.

Right now the deep state is attempting to double down, but they are losing many many battles, both nation state battles, (BRICS vs the globalists) and their battles within nations, Agenda 21 plus. (See the Dutch farmers revolt, the actions of a number of eastern Europe nations, even Mexico and parts of South America)

Within their prize, the most coveted nation they want, "The light on a hill" the USA, they are waging a war against growing resistance, against growing "States Rights" led by Florida, but many states are waking up.

Their evil is more and more exposed. Courageous and massive non violent resistance can, IMV, soundly defeat them.

I am not afraid to die if I must, I want that death to end in success, and I support the battleground of non violent resistance, as our best model for success.

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Donbass ukraine showed thr way forward. They declared autonomy and then indeoendence from kiev nazis backed by the nato hyper powers. Truly david vs goliath. They defeated a genocide and survived 8 long years of invasion and shelling from nato trained and armed butchers and war crims.

Shadows of dc gulag we alreqdy see. When texas and florida declares nullification, will dc move 10k troops to occupy and shell the population? What then?

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