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Leculdesac's avatar

The tight coupling of NIH and university research infrastructure is never better illustrated than through this example. Carolina's medical education and research apparatus has benefitted so much over the past 30 years from the "indirect" on the ever expanding NIH grants, which generate more grants and more scientists who go on to work at NIH, review for NIH, and participate in networks that affirm the same worldview. Carolina doesn't want an audit of its "compliance" with NIH/federal agency regulations, since it'd lose current and future federal funding if it were actually investigated, and the NIH doesn't either, since it puts the whole establishment in question. So even if there was an investigation, I see little hope that NIH would hold Baric's lab accountable--all the dominoes would fall.

And why would the UNC system want to investigate this, even though the board is dominated by Republicans. The federal indirect costs have subsidized what the state used to--NC doesn't want to lose that cash cow. Yes, one could say that a few small minded trustees at ECU (with the only other public med school in the state) might have an interest in busting up Carolina's dominance, but the most prominent of those have been defanged in the past few years anyway. That said, if you're serious about the investigation, I'd find some Republican legislators with a few deep ties at ECU and eastern NC. Wake Forest might have a few willing dissidents too. Duke's infectious diseases group is too tightly coupled with Carolina's.

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Adknanny's avatar

Senator Thomas Tills biggest contributor is from big pharma. Don’t bite the hand that feeds you

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NCmom's avatar

I sent Tillis a nasty gram today. I'm a registered independent but starting in 2020 and going forward it's going to be straight GOP for a while.

That said, it doesn't mean I'm handing money to the RNC who called me today. I explained the answer is NO. While I'm not stupid enough to vote for the crazy left-wing Dems, I also only plan to donate to Senator Ron Johnson, Senator Rand Paul, and Governor DeSantis. The rest of the republicans are getting into ridiculous ideological peeing matches while failing to point out the VACCINES DON'T WORK and masking our children is causing harm not stopping a virus. Being better than the far-left nutty life sucking Dems doesn't make them "good."

I then sent a nasty gram to Tillis. He's better than his opponent, but only just a little. So disappointed in BOTH useless NC senators.

I'll vote GOP because I actually love my kids and I won't be part of handing them some dystopian nightmare we are in from the Democrats. But I'm also not giving my money to people who can't stay focused on replicated actual outcomes and objective truth. I'm all done stupid ideological battles. We shouldn't have to argue about who "can" compel a "vaccine" that doesn't actually work because that answer should clearly be no one can compel a medical treatment that doesn't actually work to protect others from anything. That's step one, not "incidental" or "not what the argument is about." Falsely claiming it works is the entire justification for the stupid harmful mandates. Lockdowns, masks, "vaccines" - none of this crap actually works so no government agency at any level should be able to legally mandate any of it.

Yet, very few are focusing on this most important factual reality. Only those willing to focus on this will get my money even if I'm forced to hold my nose and vote for ideologues whose ideology is individual freedom that I agree with, but willingness to stand up for objective reality is missing.

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Adknanny's avatar

I’ve stopped all GOP donations with Winred. Find races that matter and send directly to the candidates campaign. When the National recognizes what we want maybe we can revisit.

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NCmom's avatar

If the numbers look terrible in a couple months I may donate, but right now I’m irritated and unwilling to send more money except the few good candidates who care about actual outcomes.

The poor lady from the RNC told me her daughter’s husband convinced her to get the shots and she’s had soft tissue infections the last 5 months that started right after her second shot. I asked her why she wasn’t pushing for people to talk about the terrible side effect profile and the fact that they don’t work…… her answer was basically Republicans are better than Dems and we need better candidates. I told her I agreed but most of the reason the country is being torn apart is these ridiculous ideological pissing matches. If these shots were safe and effective there would be zero need for mandates - they would have worked. Same for masks. If the people opposed to the mandates would simply include the fact THEY DON’T WORK the country wouldn’t be getting torn apart by the perception they do work from an opposition opposed solely on the grounds “I’m not going to do what someone tells me to.” The truth is, nobody would need to mandate stuff that works. That’s the true basis for historical opposition to oppressive mandates. Even if the terrible side effect profile resulted in actual stopping of transmission the debate would be can you require young people to risk their lives to save old people. It’s beyond stupid, and highly suspicious, so many anti-mandate Republicans are flat out ignoring objective reality that masks don’t work, lockdowns don’t work, and the vaccines don’t work to stop or meaningfully “slow” the spread. Targeted protection isn’t the best approach because of ideology, it’s the only one that might actually work without destroying society.

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Xdisney's avatar

Yes they kept money I thought was going to a candidate, did the monthly donations it the default. Stopped the monthly my husband too. Months later they restarted them!

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Adknanny's avatar

Please run for school board and volunteer at the poll. You have a brain. We need folks with common sense

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NCmom's avatar

Running for school board would fall flat with my kids at private school but I’ll volunteer at the polls. Actually, I’m a CPA so I may agree to be an actual poll worker. I work part time and call my own hours. But I also might be ready to poke my eyes out by the end of it. 😂. I volunteered to watch for 2 shifts last election and that was, um, eye opening. 🤦‍♀️

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Adknanny's avatar

Great. That’s what we need good luck

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NCmom's avatar

The UNC system has turned into a joke with UNC leading the way. I would NOT go to ANY physician that graduated from UNC medschool after 2008.

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Xdisney's avatar

Duke let Muslims have a meeting then denied a Jewish group! Years ago imagine how bad they are now!

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