An interesting example was carried out by the OSS during WWII. A famous German viral immunologist recalls as a vetenarian he was on the Russian front when the OSS leaked a report that the allies were going to engage in biological warfare attacking German farming with rinderpest. As he was a specialist in that field he was recalled home t…
An interesting example was carried out by the OSS during WWII. A famous German viral immunologist recalls as a vetenarian he was on the Russian front when the OSS leaked a report that the allies were going to engage in biological warfare attacking German farming with rinderpest. As he was a specialist in that field he was recalled home to help fight this threat. Just days later his former unit was overrun by the Russians. He credited the CIA (OSS) for saving his life.
I was going to make a comment on the horrible effects that all of this psychological warfare has on children. Quickly; when I was a kid my mother always told me to beware of strangers people can be dangerous etc.. my wife was told if you are lost or need something open your mouth say something. To this day I tend to never ask for help by a stranger or even people I know. I like to live incognito. My wife always says why don’t you say something, or ask for help, or directions??? I swear it goes all the way back to childhood???
Well James, all women think that not asking for directions is a "man's" ego problem! For some, even asking for any kind of help can be a hit to self-esteem. Now me, I will take all the help one has to offer even if I did not ask for it. I get it all the time as my skinning little body with grey hair is struggling with a cart full of groceries, lifting cans of gas or diesel into my pick up or loading heavy horse feed into the pickup. Angels, all of them and that includes women who stop to help also!
You're not even 60 yet so you have a chance to outgrow your mom's warning, but beware of the shysters!
Don't go putting words in my mouth James! You do know that one of the most rewarding experiences is simply being ask to help or helping even when not asked to. It makes people feel good. I'm sure you felt good when helping others.
I do love helping people, and I’m not putting words in your mouth just making the point how influenced kids can be by people of authority that are in their life. One example is todays teachers and the agenda’s they push.
Hopeful some, perhaps many kids listen more to their parents then their teachers but the books they are allowing kids to read in school libraries is what ruins them for life.
May depend on how one is brought up. Brought up with can do, well find a way vs we need to be hyper clean, hyper cautious. Hyper on guard. Snow flakes?
Yes, that is where the 'learned' comes in. I just think that some are predisposed. Just as siblings are so different in many ways, part of their underlying psyche.
Yeah, I have actually e-mailed him on this and was totally ignored. I keep saying if we can get 18 yr olds into an environment where instructed about what we are about by guys with purple hearts and maybe a few empty sleeves some attitude adjustment might occur.
Do you think that the current military environment it worthy to see your goal through? Do you think that the elite family members would ever serve if they don't want to or be given conflict duty? Do you think that any conflict that would happen in the next decade will be planned to serve the interests of the US citizens?
It seems that all the wars of the 20th and 21st centuries were meant to bring about a consolidation of powers to manhandle the citizens of the world after ensuring many died. Notwithstanding the bravery and loss of life, wars produce death and misery for all but those that profit.
What I think is that if we had truly universal conscription with no exceptions we would not have been embroiled in all that conflict. No exceptions means the kids of those elites. I do not think the freaks now in control should be there but as 44 showed us they can be replaced rather quickly. But I think putting 18 yr olds in a military regimen (discipline) would be beneficial (was for me) and being instructed in some civics by guys with a few battle scars would go far towards offsetting the damage the progressives have wrought in education a lot faster than the rebuilding of it from the ground up....which still would need doing.
I'm sure it was good for my father also. 100% Registering is one thing but exceptions pop up when it comes to serving. My husband did not have to serve in Vietnam because married with child and one on the way and had a younger eligible brother who served point in the jungle. Committed suicide at 26.
I am not sure the current set of 18 yr olds could even make it through boot camp. The military is more likely to be used if it has an unlimited number of expendables on board. Must be some other way to make men out of perpetual infants.
A point there about how much todays kids can take take. In my day even was seeing kids come up against. the word no for maybe the first time in their lives. Very traumatic. But the ones who survived that trauma came out better for it and those who did not were on the path for failure already. Until something better comes along we are stuck with a draft because however much we may not like it we are stuck with requiring a military and do not have much hope for a volunteer one based on available input today without there being in place a solid apparatus to turn the input into soldiers
An interesting example was carried out by the OSS during WWII. A famous German viral immunologist recalls as a vetenarian he was on the Russian front when the OSS leaked a report that the allies were going to engage in biological warfare attacking German farming with rinderpest. As he was a specialist in that field he was recalled home to help fight this threat. Just days later his former unit was overrun by the Russians. He credited the CIA (OSS) for saving his life.
Great story! Thank you.
or Seligman's "Learned Helplessness" study and the depression in humans attributed to the the principle?
Are only certain people predisposed to "Learned Helplessness"?
I was going to make a comment on the horrible effects that all of this psychological warfare has on children. Quickly; when I was a kid my mother always told me to beware of strangers people can be dangerous etc.. my wife was told if you are lost or need something open your mouth say something. To this day I tend to never ask for help by a stranger or even people I know. I like to live incognito. My wife always says why don’t you say something, or ask for help, or directions??? I swear it goes all the way back to childhood???
Well James, all women think that not asking for directions is a "man's" ego problem! For some, even asking for any kind of help can be a hit to self-esteem. Now me, I will take all the help one has to offer even if I did not ask for it. I get it all the time as my skinning little body with grey hair is struggling with a cart full of groceries, lifting cans of gas or diesel into my pick up or loading heavy horse feed into the pickup. Angels, all of them and that includes women who stop to help also!
You're not even 60 yet so you have a chance to outgrow your mom's warning, but beware of the shysters!
See that it’s not ego it’s because I’m psychologically damaged!!
Don't go putting words in my mouth James! You do know that one of the most rewarding experiences is simply being ask to help or helping even when not asked to. It makes people feel good. I'm sure you felt good when helping others.
I do love helping people, and I’m not putting words in your mouth just making the point how influenced kids can be by people of authority that are in their life. One example is todays teachers and the agenda’s they push.
Hopeful some, perhaps many kids listen more to their parents then their teachers but the books they are allowing kids to read in school libraries is what ruins them for life.
Actually, have read that the major influencer of kids today is their peers. Which to my mind equivalent to a circle firing squad
Pretty sure that is true, especially in the age of social media.
May depend on how one is brought up. Brought up with can do, well find a way vs we need to be hyper clean, hyper cautious. Hyper on guard. Snow flakes?
Yes, that is where the 'learned' comes in. I just think that some are predisposed. Just as siblings are so different in many ways, part of their underlying psyche.
Good point.
I would guess so
You may be getting your wish re: women conscription.
https://www.theblaze.com/news/chip-roy-selective-service-women
Yeah, I have actually e-mailed him on this and was totally ignored. I keep saying if we can get 18 yr olds into an environment where instructed about what we are about by guys with purple hearts and maybe a few empty sleeves some attitude adjustment might occur.
Do you think that the current military environment it worthy to see your goal through? Do you think that the elite family members would ever serve if they don't want to or be given conflict duty? Do you think that any conflict that would happen in the next decade will be planned to serve the interests of the US citizens?
It seems that all the wars of the 20th and 21st centuries were meant to bring about a consolidation of powers to manhandle the citizens of the world after ensuring many died. Notwithstanding the bravery and loss of life, wars produce death and misery for all but those that profit.
What I think is that if we had truly universal conscription with no exceptions we would not have been embroiled in all that conflict. No exceptions means the kids of those elites. I do not think the freaks now in control should be there but as 44 showed us they can be replaced rather quickly. But I think putting 18 yr olds in a military regimen (discipline) would be beneficial (was for me) and being instructed in some civics by guys with a few battle scars would go far towards offsetting the damage the progressives have wrought in education a lot faster than the rebuilding of it from the ground up....which still would need doing.
I'm sure it was good for my father also. 100% Registering is one thing but exceptions pop up when it comes to serving. My husband did not have to serve in Vietnam because married with child and one on the way and had a younger eligible brother who served point in the jungle. Committed suicide at 26.
I am not sure the current set of 18 yr olds could even make it through boot camp. The military is more likely to be used if it has an unlimited number of expendables on board. Must be some other way to make men out of perpetual infants.
A point there about how much todays kids can take take. In my day even was seeing kids come up against. the word no for maybe the first time in their lives. Very traumatic. But the ones who survived that trauma came out better for it and those who did not were on the path for failure already. Until something better comes along we are stuck with a draft because however much we may not like it we are stuck with requiring a military and do not have much hope for a volunteer one based on available input today without there being in place a solid apparatus to turn the input into soldiers