Hmm. Interesting. I see the circling as more of a decision making process on how I will dialogue with someone. If they are awakened, I will have a very different conversation! If someone is on the fence, I would like to be able to share things with them that might move them off the fence. If someone has no idea what is going on, my goal is to gently nudge them to start thinking outside the box they're in. But you are right that if the human mind tends toward purity spirals, it's something to be aware of during interactions. Thanks for pointing that out!
Once God is removed us humans are stuck with our own impulses which include being included, being right, being worshiped, being on top, being a winner . . . never about light and dark, truth and madness.
Thanks for the reply. Trying to grasp how “purity cycling” becomes harmful if not just deceitful. I follow Peter Boghossian and trying to determine what the negative comments claim regarding his attempting to educate the public regarding how ridiculous ideas can become considered reality. What are your thoughts of his work?
Never say “never” and “only,” but “the true Enlightenment thinker, the true rationalist, never wants to talk anyone into anything. No, he does not even want to convince; all the time he is aware that he may be wrong" (Karl Popper). And this guy: "The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing" (Socrates). Hard positions to stand on.
Your comment ‘“circle the friendlies” causes me to wonder if this would become “a purity spiral”? How could this be avoided?
Hmm. Interesting. I see the circling as more of a decision making process on how I will dialogue with someone. If they are awakened, I will have a very different conversation! If someone is on the fence, I would like to be able to share things with them that might move them off the fence. If someone has no idea what is going on, my goal is to gently nudge them to start thinking outside the box they're in. But you are right that if the human mind tends toward purity spirals, it's something to be aware of during interactions. Thanks for pointing that out!
Once God is removed us humans are stuck with our own impulses which include being included, being right, being worshiped, being on top, being a winner . . . never about light and dark, truth and madness.
A person can remove themself from God (the cultural institution) but God (the hard-wired impulse to understand) can't be removed from the person.
Thanks for the reply. Trying to grasp how “purity cycling” becomes harmful if not just deceitful. I follow Peter Boghossian and trying to determine what the negative comments claim regarding his attempting to educate the public regarding how ridiculous ideas can become considered reality. What are your thoughts of his work?
I haven't followed his work. I will have to check it out!
Never say “never” and “only,” but “the true Enlightenment thinker, the true rationalist, never wants to talk anyone into anything. No, he does not even want to convince; all the time he is aware that he may be wrong" (Karl Popper). And this guy: "The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing" (Socrates). Hard positions to stand on.
"Us" can often be at the cusp of becoming "Them"
There is better way of saying this...I just haven't had any coffee yet. lol
Lol understand
Maybe with humility?