Spotify says they'll have "a COVID-19 hub that contains facts and information from medical and health experts." That's a fine idea. McCullough and Malone are two experts who certainly can provide good content for it, as can the others who testified at Senator Johnson's January 24 hearing.
I couldn't find it before I wrote my comment, but now I see it seems to be at https://open.spotify.com/genre/corona_news_podcasts-page . There's a lot there, too much for me to look at but probably nothing reliable. I'm not a Spotify subscriber, just because I can find elsewhere more worthwhile stuff than I have time to listen to.
I listened to Joe’s mea culpa this morning - the only problem with the “search for truth notices” is that they need to be on every broadcast of the “news” as well, not just Spotify.
And by the way, folks like Fauci don’t go on Rogan because they avoid the truth.
Totally logical. But it's a pipe dream. The rabid Left will come for that next. It will not stop. By (their) definition, anyone not echoing their Party line, is spreading misinformation.
It is still beyond mystifying WHY NEIL YOUNG would cause such a farce of a stir. Following his music as he was a young solo rebel, through our cultural outrage through music and demonstrations regarding Vietnam War … deservingly….. Young, CSNY, wrote many anti government songs, as they hung with peers in a Canyon in LA.
(Recall - “4 Dead in Ohio”: the songs were fierce opposition to big brother) What happened to be the police for Government overreach, Big Media and Big Pharma mandates? NEIL, and generation… how did you get lost? You are not skeptical?
Your are into Censorship.? Did you make too much 💰 money? What gives? Where is authenticity?
There are the honorable investigators bound to share the data and areas of suppression, the sheep… don’t interrupt my life….. and the ignorant… who refuse to look or discuss the possibility of data around the world, not just MSM… The Censorship is Bizarre.
Thank you Dr. Malone for your voice of truth and courage.
Spotify would be more liable for content on a curated hub because they would be a publisher rather than a platform. How much of these misinformation warnings are accurate? This is (should be) a legal liability.
Jan 31, 2022·edited Jan 31, 2022Liked by Robert W Malone MD, MS
I wholeheartedly agree about Glenn Greenwald. His was the first Substack I subscribed to, around a year ago, and was how I learned about the platform. He is whip smart, analytical, and insightful, and knows what real journalism is. He’s also a fierce defender of the freedom of speech and not forgetting who used to stand for (and say) what just a few years ago. He’s excellent at calling out hypocrisy.
And they will follow him there and crash that platform as well. This is total war and they seem unstoppable. Not that I'm interested in discouraging anyone, but we do not yet understand the power of the enemy we are facing.
I am in a melancholy mood tonight. Spotify has caved which is disgusting. A person that I respected, Brene Brown, also has come out in support of censorship because....well frankly I have no idea because it seems at odds with her public persona. I despair in the US anyone will be held accountable because no one was with the Russia hoax (an attorney fabricated evidence against Carter Page and got basically no punishment but a non-violent guy who went into the capitol building got serious jail time). The double standards are so apparent but it seems they do as they please with no repercussions.
Sorry for the downer post. I applaud your continued hard work and pray this turns around because if it doesn't, we are done as a country. The evidence is clear thanks to you and others who support independent inquiry. Thank you.
I thought because of her spiritual nature she would support individual freedom of thought. Clearly I was wrong and will never again listen to anything she transmits or read a word of what she writes. Vapid cow.
Right! I have worked in the past with FISA court "stuff" and I cannot tell you how completely appalled I have been with all of this. Clinesmith falsified evidence, the lawyers who presented to the FISA court suppressed exculpatory information (a total no-no) so basically perjured themselves to the court and what happened??? fricking nothing. (Apologies, I am in a very negative mood and should probably sign off)
Right! I was so pleased to learn more from Kash Patel on that - wow: Kash’s Corner: Putin’s Sleight of Hand in Ukraine; Durham Probe Forges Ahead (theepochtimes.com)
Ugh ... I really like Brene Brown but she's out ... anyone who fights against freedom of speech is out. Even speech I don't like including all the fruit loops progressive nuts ... even them!
I was sad to read she is against freedom of speech ... seems to go against her message of how to overcome shame and guilt and judgement. Doesn't make sense?
Agree. Here in Canuckistan we have to run through a VPN just to see Tucker - Tonight. It is well worth it though - he revived the long interview journalism format and often has very impressive guests on. I appreciate that he doesn't restrict his guests to only those who share his political views - it really allows viewers to hear opinions they otherwise might not and makes for very interesting discussions. Triggernometry follows a similar format and is also great.
I agree. Tucker is a warrior for good! We subscribe to FoxNation. (Yes! Fox News sucks!!) It’s great you should get it. The (P)residents (Big Guy) crack head son (H) is on tonight, looks very interesting.
Also Brian kilmeade, he has a lot of 20 minute spots of various historical places. Fort Jefferson never knew it was there. In Florida, south past the Everglades and keys a smidge of an island. Very interesting stuff.
You fart nonsense. He is attacked because he was among first to state it is a LUNACY for allowing trans-women to compete in sports as - women. Please inform yourself before farting stupidities.
I read Glenn for decades -- he is a noble person of the highest integrity. He supports, like any sane person, that transwomen should be treated with respect and as women -- BUT is strictly against allowing them to compete in women sports for obvious reasons.
So go fuck yourself and spill your vomit and ignorant hatred elsewhere...
You fart nonsense. He is attacked because he was among first to state it is a LUNACY for allowing trans-women to compete in sports as - women. Please inform yourself before farting stupidities.
I read Glenn for decades -- he is a noble person of the highest integrity. He supports, like any sane person, that transwomen should be treated with respect and as women -- BUT is strictly against allowing them to compete in women sports for obvious reasons.
So go fuck yourself and spill your vomit and ignorant hatred elsewhere...
Throwing him away for not passing a purity test doesn't make sense when we have so few journalists that care about truth in general. Especially one as talented as he is.
You fart nonsense. He is attacked because he was among first to state it is a LUNACY for allowing trans-women to compete in sports as - women. Please inform yourself before farting stupidities.
I read Glenn for decades -- he is a noble person of the highest integrity. He supports, like any sane person, that transwomen should be treated with respect and as women -- BUT is strictly against allowing them to compete in women sports for obvious reasons.
So go fuck yourself and spill your vomit and ignorant hatred elsewhere...
While we quibble over these relatively small issues, I hear the gang in charge laughing at us. They engineer these conflicts to divide-and-rule. I know who the enemy is. Its not Glenn Greenwald.
Yes, I get that these are drop dead issues for you. They aren't for me. I'm focused on bigger issues - the rise of global medical fascism. That's the drop-dead issue for me. I get that we don't agree on this worldview. I'm fine with that too.
Thank you for speaking out. It is a shame that more people aren’t like you. So many people have bought into the lie. Stay the course. You have a big following. I post your info to my friends.
Sirius/XM paid millions to have Stern anchor their failing business model; he can no longer save them because he’s become a pussy. Spotify paid ~$100m to Rogan. Unless his contract is weaker than I would imagine he’d allow, if they censor him anymore than they did in the beginning by deleting certain podcasts, he can walk away, and start his own platform. Unless he was foolish, he doesn’t need Spotify. Spotify needs him.
I agree. I’m sure there would be a non-compete clause, but I have a hard time believing it would be more than 12-months. I’m aware of the videos they made him exclude, but they are still available on other platforms. I guess there’s a part of me that doesn’t want to believe he’d completely sell his soul and future for $100m.
No one, to be sure. But the battle started and continues in the dictionary. 30 years ago no one but sovietologists knew the term 'misinfo.' Today... well, we all know how it has been weaponized, as over 100 years ago Lenin made clear about his use of words.
Your "standard" is the key, I believe. Whenever an attack is made, the target is accused of the attacker's motives and actions; it softens up any resistance, keeping at bay forces that otherwise might be inclined to defend the target by confusing their perceptions and thereby buying time for the aggressor to score a bulls-eye. It is excellent tactical weaponry.
Especially if the victim is a stupid corrupt cucked coward who won't take the offensive. E.g. Racism. Dems are racists. All about skin color, jam us into arbitrary race boxes, discriminate on race, defecate on ML King's REPUBLICAN Dream of a colorblind society. So Dems get to call Rs racist with impunity. The R response is, "no we're not!", and "whose ass can we kiss to prove it?" Rs should be accusing Ds of racism, preemptively, every chance they get.
I especially love it when Ds accuse Rs of projection & disinformation. I'm sure most of the hoaxes, psyops & provocateurs floating around are Dem & Deep State launched. Like Q & Ray Epps.
Yet, it’s not just SPOTIFY…which I no longer need… many options: Censorship invades many platforms. PayPal, shockingly will not transact donation to FLCCC. Website designers will filter the content of a site. OAN is losing platform. Insane.
Dammit - I’m pissed with Spotify. Whatever happened to focusing on integrity in business rather than the bottom line. We should all follow the lesson set by the Canadian truckers - we should cancel Spotify - decide to stand up to tyranny and censorship - then see what happens to their shares.
Only ever checked out Spotify because of Joe Rogan - found it more convenient to watch it on Rumble anyhow. The people need to stop supporting enterprises that are pro-censorship of anything that questions the 'official narrative'.
This is exactly what I was talking about in my article on Democract vaccine disinformation. Spotify is censoring Rogan by requiring a disclaimer to what Dr. Malone said on his podcast. The leftists perpetuate disinformation by labeling Dr. Malone as a purveyor of misinformation.
"The Pressure Campaign on Spotify to Remove Joe Rogan Reveals the Religion of Liberals: Censorship"
That word "liberalism" has been so bastardized to be almost meaningless today. One of the oldest tricks in the book is to take over a political philosophy, retain the name to deceive people, and turn it into the polar opposite of what it previously stood for. This subversive tactic confuses a lot of people. True liberals have responded by relabelling liberalism as classical liberalism, but in reality classical liberalism = liberalism whereas modern "liberalism" = socialism and cultural Marxism. The definition of true liberalism is provided by the Mises Institute here:
"Classical liberalism" is the term used to designate the ideology advocating private property, an unhampered market economy, the rule of law, constitutional guarantees of freedom of religion and of the press, and international peace based on free trade. Up until around 1900, this ideology was generally known simply as liberalism."
Conservatism has also been highjacked and subverted by Neo-Conservatism which was founded by a Trotskyite and Labour parties no longer represent working men and women. The Trudeau government in Ottawa is really Marxist/Fascist regime with only the trappings of true liberalism. The same applies to the core of the Conservative Party of Canada.
"When words lose their meaning, people will lose their liberty." – Confucius, circa 500 B. C.
Did Bill Gates ever admit his error in the Indian Polio vax debacle? Half a million indian children paralyzed by a vaccine megalomaniac. They can't admit error because that erases the basis of their leadership status, and use their wealth hyena pack tactics to suppress criticism. That's why they spawned the wet market lie.... it was the dirty commoners not the elite leaders.
Spotify says they'll have "a COVID-19 hub that contains facts and information from medical and health experts." That's a fine idea. McCullough and Malone are two experts who certainly can provide good content for it, as can the others who testified at Senator Johnson's January 24 hearing.
Take a look at their "Covid 19 Hub". Just mainstream media BS to keep the sheeple happy.
Or maybe it’s just CYA?
Like my deli that posts the city’s mask mandate sign on the door: once you get inside, most of the employees and patrons are maskless.
I couldn't find it before I wrote my comment, but now I see it seems to be at https://open.spotify.com/genre/corona_news_podcasts-page . There's a lot there, too much for me to look at but probably nothing reliable. I'm not a Spotify subscriber, just because I can find elsewhere more worthwhile stuff than I have time to listen to.
Make no mistake, they consider Rogan a platform for Malone. And the only way to censor Malone is to cancel the platform....
I listened to Joe’s mea culpa this morning - the only problem with the “search for truth notices” is that they need to be on every broadcast of the “news” as well, not just Spotify.
And by the way, folks like Fauci don’t go on Rogan because they avoid the truth.
Totally logical. But it's a pipe dream. The rabid Left will come for that next. It will not stop. By (their) definition, anyone not echoing their Party line, is spreading misinformation.
It is still beyond mystifying WHY NEIL YOUNG would cause such a farce of a stir. Following his music as he was a young solo rebel, through our cultural outrage through music and demonstrations regarding Vietnam War … deservingly….. Young, CSNY, wrote many anti government songs, as they hung with peers in a Canyon in LA.
(Recall - “4 Dead in Ohio”: the songs were fierce opposition to big brother) What happened to be the police for Government overreach, Big Media and Big Pharma mandates? NEIL, and generation… how did you get lost? You are not skeptical?
Your are into Censorship.? Did you make too much 💰 money? What gives? Where is authenticity?
There are the honorable investigators bound to share the data and areas of suppression, the sheep… don’t interrupt my life….. and the ignorant… who refuse to look or discuss the possibility of data around the world, not just MSM… The Censorship is Bizarre.
Thank you Dr. Malone for your voice of truth and courage.
I'm just grateful I won't have to hear "A Horse With No Name" by accident. Young is a boring, no-talent hack.
Will be interesting to see who contributes (or who is allowed to contribute) factual Covid-19 information to Spotify.
My best guess is it will be government sponsored and won’t be close to honest.
Spotify would be more liable for content on a curated hub because they would be a publisher rather than a platform. How much of these misinformation warnings are accurate? This is (should be) a legal liability.
Absolutely! Will they do that though, do you think, or be threatened and cowed?
it's getting exhausting dealing with all this, Dr. Malone. Thanks for keeping up the good fight. Keeps me going on rough days.
I wholeheartedly agree about Glenn Greenwald. His was the first Substack I subscribed to, around a year ago, and was how I learned about the platform. He is whip smart, analytical, and insightful, and knows what real journalism is. He’s also a fierce defender of the freedom of speech and not forgetting who used to stand for (and say) what just a few years ago. He’s excellent at calling out hypocrisy.
Exactly my reaction, as well.
Joe could go anywhere and take his followers with him
He could come to Substack and post four hour interviews. I would watch.
And they will follow him there and crash that platform as well. This is total war and they seem unstoppable. Not that I'm interested in discouraging anyone, but we do not yet understand the power of the enemy we are facing.
Yep ... I'd go with him and freedom speech!
I am in a melancholy mood tonight. Spotify has caved which is disgusting. A person that I respected, Brene Brown, also has come out in support of censorship because....well frankly I have no idea because it seems at odds with her public persona. I despair in the US anyone will be held accountable because no one was with the Russia hoax (an attorney fabricated evidence against Carter Page and got basically no punishment but a non-violent guy who went into the capitol building got serious jail time). The double standards are so apparent but it seems they do as they please with no repercussions.
Sorry for the downer post. I applaud your continued hard work and pray this turns around because if it doesn't, we are done as a country. The evidence is clear thanks to you and others who support independent inquiry. Thank you.
Brene Brown and her closest friends have always been progressive elites. I don't know why you'd expect otherwise.
I thought because of her spiritual nature she would support individual freedom of thought. Clearly I was wrong and will never again listen to anything she transmits or read a word of what she writes. Vapid cow.
I've had a lot of clients that worship her in a guru-kind of way. I've never been completely convinced of her sincerity.
Same here. She’s a fake.
Couldn't agree more ... shame cuz I sure like her but no more.
Clinesmith even got to keep his law license. WTH!
Right! I have worked in the past with FISA court "stuff" and I cannot tell you how completely appalled I have been with all of this. Clinesmith falsified evidence, the lawyers who presented to the FISA court suppressed exculpatory information (a total no-no) so basically perjured themselves to the court and what happened??? fricking nothing. (Apologies, I am in a very negative mood and should probably sign off)
No need to apologize for speaking plainly! Yes, I am still astonished. My state bar wouldn't look the other way on this!
And that "nothing" was as robust a green light for this locomotive of the Revolution as one could imagine..
What does that tell you about the judges on the FISA court? They don’t mind being lied to. They will rubber stamp whatever is put in front of them.
Ask John Durham. It ain’t over yet. Grand juries working right now with Durham regarding the anti-Trump DNC Russiagate clusteref.
From your mouth to God's ear.
Right! I was so pleased to learn more from Kash Patel on that - wow: Kash’s Corner: Putin’s Sleight of Hand in Ukraine; Durham Probe Forges Ahead (theepochtimes.com)
Ugh ... I really like Brene Brown but she's out ... anyone who fights against freedom of speech is out. Even speech I don't like including all the fruit loops progressive nuts ... even them!
She is SO out - a bit of shock and yet, I was fatiguing of her commitment to her jargon…
I was sad to read she is against freedom of speech ... seems to go against her message of how to overcome shame and guilt and judgement. Doesn't make sense?
Brené Brown is a useless fake. I’m sorry you bought her narrative, but glad you finally woke up.
Yes! The past two years the health agencies in the US and UK have been getting away with MURDER and no one is being held accountable.
PS-2: Tucker is outstanding and his Tucker-Tonight should also be widely accessible on Spotify, Rumble, elsewhere.
His is very solid reporting, invites many who are completely silenced/censored in corrupt "mainstream" corporate media.
The rest of Fox is unwatchable... just like CNN, NYT, WaPost and MSNBC ;-))
Agree. Here in Canuckistan we have to run through a VPN just to see Tucker - Tonight. It is well worth it though - he revived the long interview journalism format and often has very impressive guests on. I appreciate that he doesn't restrict his guests to only those who share his political views - it really allows viewers to hear opinions they otherwise might not and makes for very interesting discussions. Triggernometry follows a similar format and is also great.
I agree. Tucker is a warrior for good! We subscribe to FoxNation. (Yes! Fox News sucks!!) It’s great you should get it. The (P)residents (Big Guy) crack head son (H) is on tonight, looks very interesting.
Also Brian kilmeade, he has a lot of 20 minute spots of various historical places. Fort Jefferson never knew it was there. In Florida, south past the Everglades and keys a smidge of an island. Very interesting stuff.
https://soundcloud.com/going_rogue/lets-back-up-a-sec-and-ask-why-free-speech-actually-matters
Let's Back Up A Sec And Ask Why Free Speech Actually Matters
Going Rogue With Caitlin Johnstone
Let's Back Up A Sec And Ask Why Free Speech Actually Matters (substack.com)
Glenn is the best. He is one of very few liberals who has retained his moral compass. Which is why I read his substack.
You fart nonsense. He is attacked because he was among first to state it is a LUNACY for allowing trans-women to compete in sports as - women. Please inform yourself before farting stupidities.
I read Glenn for decades -- he is a noble person of the highest integrity. He supports, like any sane person, that transwomen should be treated with respect and as women -- BUT is strictly against allowing them to compete in women sports for obvious reasons.
So go fuck yourself and spill your vomit and ignorant hatred elsewhere...
You fart nonsense. He is attacked because he was among first to state it is a LUNACY for allowing trans-women to compete in sports as - women. Please inform yourself before farting stupidities.
I read Glenn for decades -- he is a noble person of the highest integrity. He supports, like any sane person, that transwomen should be treated with respect and as women -- BUT is strictly against allowing them to compete in women sports for obvious reasons.
So go fuck yourself and spill your vomit and ignorant hatred elsewhere...
Throwing him away for not passing a purity test doesn't make sense when we have so few journalists that care about truth in general. Especially one as talented as he is.
You fart nonsense. He is attacked because he was among first to state it is a LUNACY for allowing trans-women to compete in sports as - women. Please inform yourself before farting stupidities.
I read Glenn for decades -- he is a noble person of the highest integrity. He supports, like any sane person, that transwomen should be treated with respect and as women -- BUT is strictly against allowing them to compete in women sports for obvious reasons.
So go fuck yourself and spill your vomit and ignorant hatred elsewhere...
These two examples of his perfidy are unimportant to me. I suspect my tent is larger than yours. And/or I have bigger fish to fry.
While we quibble over these relatively small issues, I hear the gang in charge laughing at us. They engineer these conflicts to divide-and-rule. I know who the enemy is. Its not Glenn Greenwald.
Yes, I get that these are drop dead issues for you. They aren't for me. I'm focused on bigger issues - the rise of global medical fascism. That's the drop-dead issue for me. I get that we don't agree on this worldview. I'm fine with that too.
Thank you for speaking out. It is a shame that more people aren’t like you. So many people have bought into the lie. Stay the course. You have a big following. I post your info to my friends.
Ditto
Sirius/XM paid millions to have Stern anchor their failing business model; he can no longer save them because he’s become a pussy. Spotify paid ~$100m to Rogan. Unless his contract is weaker than I would imagine he’d allow, if they censor him anymore than they did in the beginning by deleting certain podcasts, he can walk away, and start his own platform. Unless he was foolish, he doesn’t need Spotify. Spotify needs him.
But….but….Meghan and Harry!!! are upset!
Hey Meghan and Harry! Go back to the Queen and leave us alone!
They certainly are impressed by themselves.
That’s funny !!! Thank you Abbybwood!!
Petty wanna be’s. They pay for press.
I agree. I’m sure there would be a non-compete clause, but I have a hard time believing it would be more than 12-months. I’m aware of the videos they made him exclude, but they are still available on other platforms. I guess there’s a part of me that doesn’t want to believe he’d completely sell his soul and future for $100m.
Pf-ck Spotify. Who are they to decide what is and isn't misinformation? Rogan should bail and make some other podcast provider's decade.
No one, to be sure. But the battle started and continues in the dictionary. 30 years ago no one but sovietologists knew the term 'misinfo.' Today... well, we all know how it has been weaponized, as over 100 years ago Lenin made clear about his use of words.
Yep. Dezinformatsia. And the accusation is, of course, standard communist projection.
Your "standard" is the key, I believe. Whenever an attack is made, the target is accused of the attacker's motives and actions; it softens up any resistance, keeping at bay forces that otherwise might be inclined to defend the target by confusing their perceptions and thereby buying time for the aggressor to score a bulls-eye. It is excellent tactical weaponry.
"It is excellent tactical weaponry."
Especially if the victim is a stupid corrupt cucked coward who won't take the offensive. E.g. Racism. Dems are racists. All about skin color, jam us into arbitrary race boxes, discriminate on race, defecate on ML King's REPUBLICAN Dream of a colorblind society. So Dems get to call Rs racist with impunity. The R response is, "no we're not!", and "whose ass can we kiss to prove it?" Rs should be accusing Ds of racism, preemptively, every chance they get.
I especially love it when Ds accuse Rs of projection & disinformation. I'm sure most of the hoaxes, psyops & provocateurs floating around are Dem & Deep State launched. Like Q & Ray Epps.
Time for joe to start looking for better offers, We do not need spotify! I do not use it for anything but Joe Rogan.
Same here.
I just subscribed to Spotify to show them and JRE support, needless to say I just cancelled my membership.
Yet, it’s not just SPOTIFY…which I no longer need… many options: Censorship invades many platforms. PayPal, shockingly will not transact donation to FLCCC. Website designers will filter the content of a site. OAN is losing platform. Insane.
Dammit - I’m pissed with Spotify. Whatever happened to focusing on integrity in business rather than the bottom line. We should all follow the lesson set by the Canadian truckers - we should cancel Spotify - decide to stand up to tyranny and censorship - then see what happens to their shares.
I just subscribe to spotifiy to show them and JRE support, going online now and cancelling.
I’ve come to admire Russell Brand. Truth trumps Censorship.
Only ever checked out Spotify because of Joe Rogan - found it more convenient to watch it on Rumble anyhow. The people need to stop supporting enterprises that are pro-censorship of anything that questions the 'official narrative'.
Yes, they do, but for now Joe Rogan is still on Spotify because they made a business decision.
This is exactly what I was talking about in my article on Democract vaccine disinformation. Spotify is censoring Rogan by requiring a disclaimer to what Dr. Malone said on his podcast. The leftists perpetuate disinformation by labeling Dr. Malone as a purveyor of misinformation.
Darn Spotify. Rogan has a contract with them.
"The Pressure Campaign on Spotify to Remove Joe Rogan Reveals the Religion of Liberals: Censorship"
That word "liberalism" has been so bastardized to be almost meaningless today. One of the oldest tricks in the book is to take over a political philosophy, retain the name to deceive people, and turn it into the polar opposite of what it previously stood for. This subversive tactic confuses a lot of people. True liberals have responded by relabelling liberalism as classical liberalism, but in reality classical liberalism = liberalism whereas modern "liberalism" = socialism and cultural Marxism. The definition of true liberalism is provided by the Mises Institute here:
"Classical liberalism" is the term used to designate the ideology advocating private property, an unhampered market economy, the rule of law, constitutional guarantees of freedom of religion and of the press, and international peace based on free trade. Up until around 1900, this ideology was generally known simply as liberalism."
Conservatism has also been highjacked and subverted by Neo-Conservatism which was founded by a Trotskyite and Labour parties no longer represent working men and women. The Trudeau government in Ottawa is really Marxist/Fascist regime with only the trappings of true liberalism. The same applies to the core of the Conservative Party of Canada.
"When words lose their meaning, people will lose their liberty." – Confucius, circa 500 B. C.
Did Bill Gates ever admit his error in the Indian Polio vax debacle? Half a million indian children paralyzed by a vaccine megalomaniac. They can't admit error because that erases the basis of their leadership status, and use their wealth hyena pack tactics to suppress criticism. That's why they spawned the wet market lie.... it was the dirty commoners not the elite leaders.