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What does not get much attention is,how all the fed intrusion into medicine has led to the expansion of the field of hosp admin which I believe was virtually nonexistent until the passage of medicare. Now those bozos are fully in charge and making big bucks

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Not to mention killing people with their horrible protocols.

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Completely agree with you here! Retired last year after 45 years working as an RN in open heart surgery and it was so different back in the day. Now IтАЩve talked to administration about problems and they are not interested in investigating problematic doctors and procedures that are borderline ethical (medical ethics has REALLY not kept up with medicine). Even our CEO, who was an excellent vascular surgeon, immediately adopted administration speak when he accepted the position. Between insurance and corporate it is impossible to advocate for your patients

And speaking of medicare (which I just signed up for)тАжwhy would you devise an insurance system for elderly individuals that is soooo convoluted that I believe that you will never find out which policy is a тАЬbest fit тАЬ for you. Of course it is predominantly based on prescriptions with a footnote emphasis on fitness or diet. I really donтАЩt know if someone will be able to unscramble this egg but I hope the new administration does something to help out.

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Gee, do you think there could be some connection between the caduceus evolution and the United Health CEO hit this week? Their litigation record includes a fair amount of mendacity and deception to the general public particularly in the Medicare Advantage segment of their enterprise.

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hmmm. learned a new word today.

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I had to look it up! I know what the caduceus is, but as far as evolution...thst lost me! This site lays it out pretty clearly the difference between the caduceus and the rod of asclepius. https://sites.google.com/stu.clcillinois.edu/history-on-ancient-medicine/ancient-greek/the-caduceus-vs-rod-of-asclepius

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Well Bonnie you were well ahead of me, then. I had no clue, now you got me going down the 2nd rabbit hole . . . asclepius's rod. Heck that has a dang snake around it. . .

I'm not a doctor but, if so, I wouldn't choose either of these things.

How about a heart held in a fragile grasp with two hands in offering upwards? Perhaps just a bit more appropriate to combine with the Hippocrates oath of "First do no harm."

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Me too!

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Yes, so much has changed in the health care field now days, & just trying to find a doctor, (or a NP in my case), that is on my тАЬinsurance carrier listтАЭ, has been difficult. But, the money that is made for carriers, is extremely profitable! The fees charged for services, and/or medical items/supplies used in hospitals or Urgent Care facilities is so expensive! IтАЩm not surprised that someone took anotherтАЩs life - someone that made so much money in the health care industry of course; but, that is not a reason to kill for. IтАЩm sure the truth may come out as to why this happened, but, it may be a long wait for the truth. Very sad.

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It all really started going downhill when the hospitals (corporations) started buying out the MDтАЩs practices Now they are owned by corporate healthcare which is in bed with big pharma, big insurance and the government. This doesnтАЩt make for the best care. You basically have to go outside the system, pay out of pocket and find an independent physician. Lots of MDтАЩs have given up the rat race and practice independently. It costs, but ultimately it will keep you healthier.

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It is worth it, considering the alternative.

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