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Rudyard Kipling--

I can not help but see the parallels between the days of "Take Up the White Man's Burden" and the liberal progressives of today. In both times, it is/was appealing to the sense of righteousness and "goodness", along with control, to the proponents. It is our Duty, caps emphasized. Yet then as now, none can see the disruption to culture as by far the biggest evil. The economic migrants today think it is the land of milk and honey, yet fail to see the horrors of many in this land, the strife in so many of the US poor, and what they leave behind in culture, in their families and their roots. Hopefully, they can return.

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I knew a woman from Honduras (legal immigrant) who said that she thought that because the United States was a rich country, she thought that it would be much nicer than her own country and was shocked when she got here to find out that the buildings were the same and the people were much poorer than she thought.

I think most people in poorer countries get their ideas about America from Hollywood movies.

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So true, the comment about Hollywood shaping the perception of the world about America. I recall a friend, returning from college, surprised to learn that America outside the little rural town, was not endless affluent Suburbia ala ET.

As I've mentioned previously, a woman who has become a good friend immigrated via legal asylum claim from Ukraine in the 90's. She lost her husband in the process, he was supposed to follow some months later, but mysteriously died before he was allowed out. She was and is aghast at the lack of freedom in the US, and returned to Ukraine and a sister in the 00's. Her son pulled her back to the US, where she remains.

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They can't return, because the United States has been making their countries a war zone since the 1970s.

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A close friend of my father was a scientist for Walter Reed Army Medical in the 1950's. The pictures of life in Latin America, esp Panama, he brought on his visits are still vivid in my memory. In my travels in Latin America, ending about a decade ago, there was nothing like that. The poverty, the sheet metal huts with many naked, kwashiorkor stricken children gazing back at their toothless mother are gone. Whether on the coast, in the city, or the interior, what I saw was friendlier, in better shape, than here.

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It was not socialism that improved their lot but it will take them back to the 50s in a heartbeat

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