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The sunflower vs solar panels was poignant and too real. A red pill more need to ingest.

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Reports keep coming out that wind/solar cannot provide the needed energy and yet they keep taking te sources that can off line. Stupid

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Yep, although I believe it's a lot worse than stupid.

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Yep!!! My Lovely Bride is V.P. New Energy. She thinks wind is stupid. The major corporation She works just allocated $500 million to research/fund My idea. IтАЩm like Hey, where is My cutЁЯдг. Ed

Edit - Another ideaтАжtechnology not there yetтАжHow do You store the energy from a lightning bolt strike? Get stuck in My head for a dayЁЯШБ.

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Dr. Frankenstein did it.

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I have 4 panels & 2 batteries for emergencies. They need full sun to charge anything, maybe 4-6 hours a day, not just the presence of sun. Solar scammers don't want you to know that.

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Since we're rural and have an all electric house with a well that's electric, we'd looked at solar with storage batteries, but took a pass in favor of a propane generator and a 1000 gallon buried tank. Also have a nice creek on our property and the water can easily be purified if and when.

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Nealstar, tell me more about your buried tank. Ours is ugly, considering burying it. What do you have to do, anything?, to prevent corrosion of the tank? What is the pit lined with to protect it? thx.

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We haven't done it yet, waiting for the weather to break. We're looking at a new tank, they are heavily coated and burying them is pretty common so a casual observer won't know what we have. Hole has to be excavated and usual practice is to set them on a bed of gravel and only have the filler, gauges, etc. visible. We started on the propane alternative over a year ago and have been kissing pigs finding a contractor but are finally with the right people. Don't have a bid for excavation yet as we haven't finalized. I'd imagine from other excavation we've had that it would cost a couple thousand, including the trench for the pipe to the house and the hookup. Since we live in the Rockies, it's complicated by boulders. If you live in the flat lands with that beautiful black soil, it could easily be less. Sorry I can't be more help at this time.

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Thanks for all the detail. When you get 'er done, it would be nice to know more.

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I just put a note in one of my files that I have for misc. notes and check frequently, but will make a sticky and get back to you. Waiting for a particular issue to resolve before getting to the whole project which looks to be low-mid-5 figures. All but tank, installation and piping seems to be about $22K.

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What are the rich and infamous going use for energy 30, 100, 600 years from now if they don't start saving the oil and natural gas for the future. Larry Fink (great name for a fink) has been buying stock in the newer Saudi oil lines. BlackRock also has major shares in the coal industry. They ain't stupid.

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My bet: gas powered turbines will be implemented to make up the difference; for investors Solar Turbines (Catepiller subsidiary) might be a good bet.

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