I know it’s hard to think what it would take to murder someone. Normal people can’t imagine it. Now imagine the unbelievable balls it would take for a group of unelected people in an American intelligence agency to all get together and assassinate a sitting President of the United States. I mean these men blew this guy away in public vie…
I know it’s hard to think what it would take to murder someone. Normal people can’t imagine it. Now imagine the unbelievable balls it would take for a group of unelected people in an American intelligence agency to all get together and assassinate a sitting President of the United States. I mean these men blew this guy away in public view for the whole world to see. This seems to me to be much bigger than an assassination of JFK. Solons in Washington DC were sent an extreme definite message. You go along with what we say and what we want or you will get your head blown off. Don’t we see the jailing of opposing political peoples today, yes a lesser penalty, but a very productive tactic. Never forget Chuck Schumers comment “they have six ways to Sunday to get you” submit or be imprisoned or worse. When a person is put in solitary confinement with no charges, no court date, unable to speak to their loved ones, withheld from speaking to a lawyer, you basically are killing the person. It truly shows how people like Dr. Malone and all the other patriots that stand up against this invisible mafia deserve us true Americans praise, support and prayers. J.Goodrich
You are so right about the "Normal people can't imagine it" Or really don't want to entertain the thought, who do you trust goes right out the window. (No surprise to you James) This is another important piece to the unveiling of the gov. corruption. How much can we take, and there is so much more. Just listened to Fallout from Fri. I feel like I'm living in a freak show.
I think you underestimate the power of religion. Not in the normal sense as in, let's say, Islamic Jihad, but the undying belief in another type of ideology the perps of this crime were beholden to. The belief that Communism is the one true way that people can live in peace through equality in all aspects is a powerful religion, and one that I believe was the reason behind Kennedy's demise.
Of course, Communism and Socialism will never be successful forms of society due to one important point: the human spirit's overwhelming need to excel will always over-ride the slide towards mediocrity that Socialism encourages.
Patriot, in todays America I could tend to believe that, of coarse you would have to throw in the absolute disregard for the life of the citizen because of the thirst for money and power. But in 1963 I would guess greed, the military industrial complex, the desire to have a full scale war in Vietnam and the arrogance again to send a message to anyone that may stand up against them. I wasn’t born until 1965 so I’m sure there were other motives but a message was definitely sent.
I completely agree with you, however, I don't think it is that unbelievable to think that it would gave been difficult for those in our intelligence agency in the 60s to have carried out the order. Isn't that the primary purpose of the CIA, even then? With all the shock, that I guess is still felt by many citizens, that this could have happened, what makes us think that this act in the early 60s was the first time that the US's CIA/OSS had engaged in similarly atrocious acts in the tears before that. Now I'm beginning to wonder how many years before the Kennedy assassination our intelligence people, whatever their name, engaged in similarly shocking acts.
The CIA in 1963 had only been around for 15 years at that point. So to murder a president is an amazingly bold takeover of America. The people that did this had to be a relatively small group of elite people within that organization. There probably was collaboration with other elites in other agencies but my God to do this the way they did is a gross takeover of power and in only 15 years of existence. Frightening!!
Don’t forget the history. Prior to naming the CIA, it was the OSS. I don’t suppose they cleaned house when the name changed. The org culture continued and there wasn’t a 15 year old new agency. It was paralleling J Edgar Hoover and the FBI, also out-of-control fascist power. Joe McCarthy was right.
Our British cousins did a t.v. series about their MI 5. We and the cats have been watching it on Prime and last nite they had a show where MI 6 orchestrated a coup to take control of the gov, suspend all civil rights and kill a whole bunch of folks in the process. Sorta like…
I would think there would have been considerable overlap in personnel
But, just between the two of us: the 3-letter agencies of today, the ones we seem to be ready to demonize (probably with good reason 🤷♀️ 😉), I’m just not in a place where I think these agencies were like that 60, 70 years ago.
But I belch unicorns&rainbows, so what could I know 🤔
SR Miller I’m not at all deeply versed in OSS or 1963 CIA. I just think there was more to killing JFK so publicly. I found this Video on OSS. They had formed in 1943 just 20 years before they murdered Kennedy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Strategic_Services
USSR, Cuber, who knows; I’m of the opinion we may never know if there was more to it than Oswald. Frankly, it’s not something I think about nor loose sleep over. We can speculate until the gummint becomes fiscally responsible and knowing who/what would be naught but an historical footnote. But, here’s something to think about: you do know who was around in 1963?, Biden! Oh sure, he’d have been young but is there any aspect of life where he hasn’t excelled - as he repeatedly informs us. By eliminating Kennedy from his perch as the soon to be elder statesman of the democrat party, the path is cleared for Biden to begin ascending. Two term Kennedy, no Future President Biden. Two term Kennedy upsets the whole Apple cart - no Johnson, no new deal, Clinton never does better than a beat up El Camino with shag rug in the rear; Obama’s mentor is deported or imprisoned as a commie sympathizer and today we’d be growing Christmas Cacti on Mars.
Oops, slipped into writer mode and began belching rainbows and unicorns. Again.
Little known fact in this alternate history, Ronald Wilson Reagan still becomes President, but Nixon never does - Governor of California after Reagan 😊
Yes, why so publically? Perhaps to send a message to some people? Would this have to do with his being Catholic? Millions of Catholics around the world were devastated.
That is the purpose of most public assassinations - to "send a message." There have been many such killings. Another major one was MLK. There have been many assassinations committed in other countries as well. The CIA got rather good at it. Another was Marilyn Monroe.
And RFK in 1968. I watched that one live on TV. Even though I was only 14 when JFK was assassinated, I always thought it was odd that Jack Ruby could have gotten into that garage to shoot Oswald. I was suspicious from that point on. And then of course all the stuff about JFK, RFK and Marilyn.
My family was visiting California - camping in Yosemite when that happened. I didn't totally appreciate the significance of it at that time. What a brutish, cynical and ignorant way to run a planet!
Yes, I agree with everything you said. Those of us who consider ourselves patriotic Americans cannot conceive of this type of internal corruption in what we used to consider an ethical and moral government. The past few years have more than opened my eyes to what our "government" is capable of doing and to what extent they will go to achieve an agenda. The alphabet agencies are run by politically motivated people who will stop at nothing to further their cause. What really is astounding to me is how over the past 50+ years, the education system has been able to indoctrinate so many into this far left mentality that destroys the very principals that this country was founded on. Just seeing how elected politicians pander to terrorist groups like Hamas supporters, BLM and others, should tell you that a large majority of them are bought and paid for. But back to the JFK assasination - more and more information has surfaced from very credible people that this was a takedown by our own federal government. The emergency physicians at Parkland Hospital even backed up that JFK was shot from the front with the entrance wound in his throat. These were experienced trauma doctors, and if I recall from the documentary that was made, they unanimously agreed. The Warren Commission was a sham used to cover for the parties that set out to eliminate JFK. Sad to see our government turning out to be worse than Venezuela. At least in Venezuela, they opening eliminate political opponents.
A new book - 'Big Intel' - "How the CIA and FBI Went from Cold War Heroes to Deep State Villains" by a longtime CIA agent - J. Michael Waller - is a fascinating in depth read that fills in MANY of the puzzle pieces and connecting dots of how our federal government has become absolutely, irredeemably, CORRUPT! (and its NOT the first time).
Lord Acton nailed it about how "Power Corrupts (and) Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely".
I wouldn't put it past "them" to already have in place an "October Surprise" just before the November elections - where Biden gets assassinated - and the "Justice" department and FAKE NEWS media claims it was a (white) MAGA "domestic terrorist" who dunnit.
No doubt "they" know Trump IS ahead in the polls and has a good chance of winning (and would no doubt), like to snuff Trump, but that would make him a (permanent) martyr; and REALLY PISS off over 70 MILLION Americans.
The "October Surprise" has been the M.O. of the so-called "Democratic" party, to change public opinion at the last minute in elections for decades.
So very right James! We are so blessed to have patriots like the Malones speaking the truth and standing up! We strongly support them! And we pray for them! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
I know it’s hard to think what it would take to murder someone. Normal people can’t imagine it. Now imagine the unbelievable balls it would take for a group of unelected people in an American intelligence agency to all get together and assassinate a sitting President of the United States. I mean these men blew this guy away in public view for the whole world to see. This seems to me to be much bigger than an assassination of JFK. Solons in Washington DC were sent an extreme definite message. You go along with what we say and what we want or you will get your head blown off. Don’t we see the jailing of opposing political peoples today, yes a lesser penalty, but a very productive tactic. Never forget Chuck Schumers comment “they have six ways to Sunday to get you” submit or be imprisoned or worse. When a person is put in solitary confinement with no charges, no court date, unable to speak to their loved ones, withheld from speaking to a lawyer, you basically are killing the person. It truly shows how people like Dr. Malone and all the other patriots that stand up against this invisible mafia deserve us true Americans praise, support and prayers. J.Goodrich
And prayers.
Hi Shelley I hope you don’t mind I stole your And Prayers.
You are so right about the "Normal people can't imagine it" Or really don't want to entertain the thought, who do you trust goes right out the window. (No surprise to you James) This is another important piece to the unveiling of the gov. corruption. How much can we take, and there is so much more. Just listened to Fallout from Fri. I feel like I'm living in a freak show.
James
I think you underestimate the power of religion. Not in the normal sense as in, let's say, Islamic Jihad, but the undying belief in another type of ideology the perps of this crime were beholden to. The belief that Communism is the one true way that people can live in peace through equality in all aspects is a powerful religion, and one that I believe was the reason behind Kennedy's demise.
Of course, Communism and Socialism will never be successful forms of society due to one important point: the human spirit's overwhelming need to excel will always over-ride the slide towards mediocrity that Socialism encourages.
Patriot, in todays America I could tend to believe that, of coarse you would have to throw in the absolute disregard for the life of the citizen because of the thirst for money and power. But in 1963 I would guess greed, the military industrial complex, the desire to have a full scale war in Vietnam and the arrogance again to send a message to anyone that may stand up against them. I wasn’t born until 1965 so I’m sure there were other motives but a message was definitely sent.
Or the 33 degree Freemason/Illuminati/Luciferian type of religion 🤫👁️.
I completely agree with you, however, I don't think it is that unbelievable to think that it would gave been difficult for those in our intelligence agency in the 60s to have carried out the order. Isn't that the primary purpose of the CIA, even then? With all the shock, that I guess is still felt by many citizens, that this could have happened, what makes us think that this act in the early 60s was the first time that the US's CIA/OSS had engaged in similarly atrocious acts in the tears before that. Now I'm beginning to wonder how many years before the Kennedy assassination our intelligence people, whatever their name, engaged in similarly shocking acts.
The CIA in 1963 had only been around for 15 years at that point. So to murder a president is an amazingly bold takeover of America. The people that did this had to be a relatively small group of elite people within that organization. There probably was collaboration with other elites in other agencies but my God to do this the way they did is a gross takeover of power and in only 15 years of existence. Frightening!!
Don’t forget the history. Prior to naming the CIA, it was the OSS. I don’t suppose they cleaned house when the name changed. The org culture continued and there wasn’t a 15 year old new agency. It was paralleling J Edgar Hoover and the FBI, also out-of-control fascist power. Joe McCarthy was right.
Our British cousins did a t.v. series about their MI 5. We and the cats have been watching it on Prime and last nite they had a show where MI 6 orchestrated a coup to take control of the gov, suspend all civil rights and kill a whole bunch of folks in the process. Sorta like…
What's the name of the show?
Spooks
Not opining either way with your post, but:
OSS -> CIA.
I would think there would have been considerable overlap in personnel
But, just between the two of us: the 3-letter agencies of today, the ones we seem to be ready to demonize (probably with good reason 🤷♀️ 😉), I’m just not in a place where I think these agencies were like that 60, 70 years ago.
But I belch unicorns&rainbows, so what could I know 🤔
SR Miller I’m not at all deeply versed in OSS or 1963 CIA. I just think there was more to killing JFK so publicly. I found this Video on OSS. They had formed in 1943 just 20 years before they murdered Kennedy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Strategic_Services
USSR, Cuber, who knows; I’m of the opinion we may never know if there was more to it than Oswald. Frankly, it’s not something I think about nor loose sleep over. We can speculate until the gummint becomes fiscally responsible and knowing who/what would be naught but an historical footnote. But, here’s something to think about: you do know who was around in 1963?, Biden! Oh sure, he’d have been young but is there any aspect of life where he hasn’t excelled - as he repeatedly informs us. By eliminating Kennedy from his perch as the soon to be elder statesman of the democrat party, the path is cleared for Biden to begin ascending. Two term Kennedy, no Future President Biden. Two term Kennedy upsets the whole Apple cart - no Johnson, no new deal, Clinton never does better than a beat up El Camino with shag rug in the rear; Obama’s mentor is deported or imprisoned as a commie sympathizer and today we’d be growing Christmas Cacti on Mars.
Oops, slipped into writer mode and began belching rainbows and unicorns. Again.
Little known fact in this alternate history, Ronald Wilson Reagan still becomes President, but Nixon never does - Governor of California after Reagan 😊
Yes, why so publically? Perhaps to send a message to some people? Would this have to do with his being Catholic? Millions of Catholics around the world were devastated.
All except biden I’d be willing to bet.
Good point about the publically. They certainly didn't need to do it publically, did they?
That is the purpose of most public assassinations - to "send a message." There have been many such killings. Another major one was MLK. There have been many assassinations committed in other countries as well. The CIA got rather good at it. Another was Marilyn Monroe.
And RFK in 1968. I watched that one live on TV. Even though I was only 14 when JFK was assassinated, I always thought it was odd that Jack Ruby could have gotten into that garage to shoot Oswald. I was suspicious from that point on. And then of course all the stuff about JFK, RFK and Marilyn.
My family was visiting California - camping in Yosemite when that happened. I didn't totally appreciate the significance of it at that time. What a brutish, cynical and ignorant way to run a planet!
Yes, I agree with everything you said. Those of us who consider ourselves patriotic Americans cannot conceive of this type of internal corruption in what we used to consider an ethical and moral government. The past few years have more than opened my eyes to what our "government" is capable of doing and to what extent they will go to achieve an agenda. The alphabet agencies are run by politically motivated people who will stop at nothing to further their cause. What really is astounding to me is how over the past 50+ years, the education system has been able to indoctrinate so many into this far left mentality that destroys the very principals that this country was founded on. Just seeing how elected politicians pander to terrorist groups like Hamas supporters, BLM and others, should tell you that a large majority of them are bought and paid for. But back to the JFK assasination - more and more information has surfaced from very credible people that this was a takedown by our own federal government. The emergency physicians at Parkland Hospital even backed up that JFK was shot from the front with the entrance wound in his throat. These were experienced trauma doctors, and if I recall from the documentary that was made, they unanimously agreed. The Warren Commission was a sham used to cover for the parties that set out to eliminate JFK. Sad to see our government turning out to be worse than Venezuela. At least in Venezuela, they opening eliminate political opponents.
A new book - 'Big Intel' - "How the CIA and FBI Went from Cold War Heroes to Deep State Villains" by a longtime CIA agent - J. Michael Waller - is a fascinating in depth read that fills in MANY of the puzzle pieces and connecting dots of how our federal government has become absolutely, irredeemably, CORRUPT! (and its NOT the first time).
Lord Acton nailed it about how "Power Corrupts (and) Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutely".
I wouldn't put it past "them" to already have in place an "October Surprise" just before the November elections - where Biden gets assassinated - and the "Justice" department and FAKE NEWS media claims it was a (white) MAGA "domestic terrorist" who dunnit.
No doubt "they" know Trump IS ahead in the polls and has a good chance of winning (and would no doubt), like to snuff Trump, but that would make him a (permanent) martyr; and REALLY PISS off over 70 MILLION Americans.
The "October Surprise" has been the M.O. of the so-called "Democratic" party, to change public opinion at the last minute in elections for decades.
So very right James! We are so blessed to have patriots like the Malones speaking the truth and standing up! We strongly support them! And we pray for them! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
Amen!
Exactly