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Truth Seeker's avatar

But Hugh, I still have hope for America. We were founded for liberty and many of us are prepared to die for it. We owe it to future generations.

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Hugh Petersen's avatar

You are right but people have changed and although there are plenty of us willing to fight for our freedom our society is different. It has changed for a lot of reasons which include indoctrination by schools and the media along with the introduction of the internet. Giving out participation trophies and creating safe spaces really screwed us up. We have done it to ourselves and that is why,even though I will fight for our freedom, I don’t feel sorry for us.

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AnonRachel's avatar

I think it is all so intertwined. I'm old enough to remember when we were once a healthy people. Recently I saw a photograph of people on a US beach in the 70's. No one was obese or even overweight in the photograph. In my lifetime we have poisoned our people with glyphosate in our food, an ever increasing amount of childhood vaccinations that are more than twice as many as 30 some years ago when my son was born, fluroride in our water, children brought up by single mothers who have to work 2 jobs to make ends meet, a series of reckless wars where we have destroyed whole countries..........

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Truth Seeker's avatar

All true. But remember that no more than 45% of the colonists supported the war, and 30% fought for the British. This is still America. We can do this.

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Hugh Petersen's avatar

I never knew of the percentages. With the weaponry of today I do believe we need most of the military and law enforcement behind us to prevail. I worry about the new “woke military “.

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Naomi's avatar

Gene Sharp write a short instruction manual on how ordinary people can turn around their country. It's titled "From Dictatorship to Democracy."

https://www.goodreads.com › book › show › 1119326.From_Dictatorship_to_Democracy

"From Dictatorship to Democracy by Gene Sharp - Goodreads

From Dictatorship to Democracy: A Conceptual Framework for Liberation by Gene Sharp is a fascinating working document on methods of non-violent disruption of dictatorial regimes. I read this in one day, and thoroughly enjoyed it. Sharp first analyzes some of the fallacies of both violent confrontation of a regime, and of negotiating with it."

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Science is Political 2.0's avatar

I am way overdue on Goodreads too.. yeah have not read that one.. anything with word Democracy in it.. I have a tendency to skip.. will check out the reviews.. I was on there EARLY this morning reading reviews on Huxley's Grey Eminence. well I was thinking last night about Pelosi at the Vatican.. taking communion with the commie Pope. well gotta go. enough wandering around the GLOBE. :) when is BidenRot coming home? heard he wants to stay in Spain and was schooled by Macron. OMG.

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Naomi's avatar

I saved it in my hard drive some years ago.

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The Usual Suspect's avatar

True, but where is George Washington or Ben Franklin when we need them. Real leadership seems to be in short supply.

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Naomi's avatar

Ron DeSantis is real leadership. Marjorie Taylor Green is real leadership. Tucker Carlson is real leadership. Dave Rubin is real leadership. Ben Shapiro is real leadership. Joe Rogan is real leadership. Elon Musk is real leadership. Mark Levin is real leadership.

I challenge you to add to the list.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

Donald Trump, Steve Bannon, Archbishop Vigano, Eric Metaxas,

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Naomi's avatar

Excellent. Dr. Jordan Peterson.

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Lora B's avatar

Matt Walsh, Robert Malone, Alex Barenson, Naomi Wolff, Toby Rogers….there are many!

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Naomi's avatar

Yes!!! Thank you for adding to the list. I would like to add Dr. Peter McCullough and Dr. Ryan Cole. Both are fighting their state medical boards who are trying to take their medical licenses.

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Lora B's avatar

OMG! I didn’t know Dr. McCullough was being threatened with losing his license! Tragic! Welcome to state run medicine. 😠 So glad I removed myself & family from modern medicine years ago. We don’t see doctors except in emergency situations.

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Naomi's avatar

Both of them have lost income, particularly Dr. McCullough. Did you know Dr. Simone Gold was sentenced to 2 months in jail for walking into the Capital on January 6th?

I received an email today from Take Back Our Freedom to contribute to a fund to help these doctors fight the CA licensing board. I can't locate the email now. It's buried way down in my inbasket. I wish they would set up a GiveSendGo.

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New Humanity's avatar

plus there is a serious amount of good energy building up on Earth for this upcoming overhaul. it's quite the drama....

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Expat's avatar

True, but the Communists have always been a minority, but they managed to take power (China, Venezuela, USSR, etc.)

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JLo2112's avatar

It is a sad state of affairs, but we didn’t do this, we were duped, while it was done to us.

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Hugh Petersen's avatar

Duped at first but some woke up.

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Satan's Doorknob's avatar

What future generations? Have you checked birth rates by nation? Most of the, ah, shall we say "Nations that actually advanced civilization, created value and raises worldwide standards of living" are far below replacement levels?

Kudos for your optimism. But sadly, there are near-certain demographic trends that augur for a rather bleak future not just for us, but for the entire globe.

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Dr. Hubris's avatar

Exactly! ... and don't forget the on-going WW3, which may end up with nukes, just because the managers of the American Empire cannot accept loosing the World (which they "rightfully own").

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-BzyGQ_XSg

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Hugh Petersen's avatar

We have to be realistic, at least in our own minds, and I agree with you.

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The Society of Problem Solvers's avatar

In order to touch the untouchable we need a plan. A decentralized one. A safe one.

Dr. Malone identifies the problem, but what is the solution? Our systems have been corrupted by regulatory capture and special interest groups - we can't expect the system to fix itself. We need a NEW idea. One that makes the old one obsolete.

If our problem is systemic corruption the best cure is radical FORCED TRANSPARENCY.

I purpose it is this: A Transparency Movement.

I beg all of you to read this:

https://joshketry.substack.com/p/what-we-need-is-a-transparency-movement

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Satan's Doorknob's avatar

Realistically there is no prospect for reform. It will probably require a total collapse of the system with all the grief that implies. But by all mans, vote harder, as the saying goes!

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Science is Political 2.0's avatar

Forged Transparency.. wow. what a brilliant concept.

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Science is Political 2.0's avatar

I like the OOoo. ;) yes I am back reviewing again. :) Thursday for me is always about reviewing what I missed during the week. a friend just emailed and there was a how called the Rationalist .. but then corrected himself and he always says Oof like the commercial for shoes which in reality do not release the pressure.. One chooses to release the pressure and stress by soaking.. in .. well. the day :

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Science is Political 2.0's avatar

did you go to Mr Rationalist thread and not Robert Malone's thread? yes, VERY INFORMATIVE; Good morning EC. I also am up.. HAPPY 4tth.

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Dr. Hubris's avatar

"I still have hope for America."

Ugh... really now?

https://www.bitchute.com/video/VA1BP55NcCSp/

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JLo2112's avatar

Standby for the pillars of salt... . Although today it will be piles of post-nuclear dust and shadow figures burnt onto walls.

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Mary Matthews's avatar

Where in the world was this atrocity?

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Dr. Hubris's avatar

The US of A...

I don't care about the degenerate who does that show, but the public cheering for him...

We are sooooo f'ed!

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Science is Political 2.0's avatar

uh huh.. do I detect sarcasm? good morning. still.. been a long one already.. :)

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