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Cregg Lund's avatar

My wife, Nurse Corrine, and I live off-grid in the Cascades. Our property is adjacent to "Federal" Wilderness Land. We have an all-year creek that runs through our property and is fed by a high mountain lake above us which is in turn fed by perpetually melting snow off the peaks.

Last sumer I installed a micro-hydro electrical turbine designed by Langston Alternative Power. To get enough "drop" in my water lines I had to extend the source higher up the slope beyond my property line about 25 yards into "Federal" Wildnerness Land. The water I use for the hydro plant is temporarily diverated using 3" PVC pipe to the turbine then it is directed right back into the creek still pure and unpolluted.

A few weeks ago I caught the Feds inspecting my water line. Some hikers turned me in thinking I was a meth lab or something. Evidently, I'm violating Federal Law. The water, I was told, is owned by the Federal Gov't and who do I think I am using it for power?

Furthermore, they informed me, how dare I have the audacity to use a free and clean energy system without their blessings and kickbacks (permits).

I suspect any day now they will show up to destroy my water lines. And then the kenetic war here will begin.

I'm ready. Are they? Are they really?

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Robert W Malone MD, MS's avatar

consider relocation to VA.

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Robert W Malone MD, MS's avatar

We can pull all the water we want out of our creek with no permit and no oversight. in CA, what we call "our creek" (Deep Run) would probably be called a river.

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Cregg Lund's avatar

We have considered relocating to VA. In fact, Corrine had some very good interviews with UVA Medical Center a few weeks ago.

She gets headhunter calls every day so relocating out of here should be easy especially considering she gets offered total relocation packages plus hefty sign-on bonuses.

But the hurdle we can't seem to clear when it comes to relocating is that we feel compelled to stand our ground, behind enemy lines even.

We got ran out of California where we were both born and raised.

We got ran out of Hawaii (Paradise is a state of mind, not a geographical location.)

We're in our 60's now. Its time to stop running, turn, and fight.

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KRNapa's avatar

Now that you have a sane governor, it’s a consideration!

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Bonnie Aitken's avatar

He still doesn't get the health freedom concept

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Bonnie Aitken's avatar

But avoid woke Fairfax county and double woke Loudoun County if you come to VA

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Randall Stoehr's avatar

Isn't it always amazing how often they pay folks a huge salary to sneak around nature conserving folks real estate and then make those lives as miserable as possible?

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Cregg Lund's avatar

Look into the Bolt Creek Wildfire. That's how bad they want us off-grid folks out of here.

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Randall Stoehr's avatar

Job Posting for assassins or arsonists. Must have a prior Federal Police record current on file.

Or a pending prosecution charge may suffice. ( a wavier for specialty tasks on our approval)

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devoalan's avatar

Wagner of USA

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Shelley's avatar

In OR it is against the law to collect rain water, as it belongs to the State. Also has many regulations regarding use of your property if adjacent to a wet spot. When I was there the legislature tried to pass a bill that required all building owners to pay an annual fee per sq foot of roof top. The fund would be used to pay for systems to deal with rain run-off. The entire Willamette Valley gets 9 months of continuous rain. I was requested to put backflow devices on my outside water faucets to keep contaminants from entering the water system. I declined to do so - I was not on a water system, but rather a well in my back yard. It also enacted a law that forbid wrapping a hot water heater but required the water heater to be strapped to the house wood framework to keep it from falling during an earthquake. You just can't make this stuff up.

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Micheal Nash, Ph. D.'s avatar

Should not need to wrap water heater today. Our 40 gal went toes up and we could not replace with another because the e.p.a. (who I detest) have increased insulation requirement so had to go to a 30 gal. Was not happy.

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Shelley's avatar

I have no idea how old mine was, it came with the home purchase in 2009. When I went to sell the place in 2016 the realtor had her husband rip the insulation off saying it was against code. It was on the main ground floor under the stairs behind a door. He strapped it to the stair frame so it “would not topple over” in an earthquake! Stupid people…

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devoalan's avatar

Repair it.

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Micheal Nash, Ph. D.'s avatar

Wish I had. Miss that 10 gallons.

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Helen Collier's avatar

Property rights usually extend to as far into the sky as the eye can see and under the ground until you reach China. How did we allow any state to usurp our rights as free people?

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Helen Collier's avatar

I can't believe how much power the feds and states have granted themselves while we were sleeping.

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T.'s avatar

Granted themselves ?

We authorized it by being asleep at the wheel. The car didn't careen off into the woods on it's own. Someone was driving it, that fell asleep. This is intentional, and and all part of the plan. Bread and circuses, "look balloon", Submarine missing, take the crumbs and like it. All meant to dumb us down, and keep us looking over there, while they do this over here. Too much of the populous has fallen prey to this mindset, and it's up to people like you, I and all those in this forum to waken the other lions

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Micheal Nash, Ph. D.'s avatar

Hate to say it Helen but afraid the population of this Republic was wide awake and let it happen. Gave up a little freedom with each promise of more freebies--blind as bats at where the money to buy them was coming from

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Big E's avatar

I wonder if there's more to your water troubles, such as the superb guest essay the wonderfully outspoken Nurse Corinne wrote:

🔥 A Perspective on the Current State of American Healthcare (Healthless in Seattle) by Corrine Lund, RN/BSN/CEN. https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/a-nurses-pov-on-covid-and-healthcare

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devoalan's avatar

Godspeed and accuracy.

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Cregg Lund's avatar

Powder is dry.

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