What I do know about LBJ, which is historically known and accurate, is that he was diametrically opposed to JFK’s policies.
1. JFK did not want to go to war in Vietnam—LBJ got us there in no time, and we lost 58,000 Americans, plus hundreds of thousands wounded in the Line of Duty, who many are still suffering from the effects of that war.
What I do know about LBJ, which is historically known and accurate, is that he was diametrically opposed to JFK’s policies.
1. JFK did not want to go to war in Vietnam—LBJ got us there in no time, and we lost 58,000 Americans, plus hundreds of thousands wounded in the Line of Duty, who many are still suffering from the effects of that war.
2. JFK said, “Think not of what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.” LBJ’s “War on Poverty” and “Great Society” created the welfare state of government dependence and particularly destroyed the unity of families in black communities, and I’ll add, families of all ethnicities.
That is LBJ’s legacy, and the legacy of the Democratic Party, which continues to this day—it’s a godless and selfish ideology. It’s remarkable to me that JFK has disappeared from the Democratic Party. He’s not quoted or referenced as a hero, yet his policies would have benefitted our nation tremendously—interesting indeed. Just an opinion.
I remember seeing a blurb on page 6 of the local paper in October, '63 that said Kennedy was considering dropping Johnson from the '64 ticket. Never got much attention, except perhaps from one particular individual. One thing's for sure, Landslide Lyndon was no stranger to nefarious activity.
Read his biography. He was one of the meanest nastiest politicians ever to rise to power in this country. No trick was too dirty for him. Truly a disgusting human being. Obama and Biden are merely selfish and corrupt they don’t hold a candle to his level of evil
Yes, his rise to power certainly had its "idiosyncracies." The quote attributed to him that "he would have them n******s voting Democrat for 200 years" rings true, although its authenticity is difficult to verify. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...
Joseph, When I read what you said, it came to me I didn't have a clue of any of this until recently and didn't care. I was innocent and lived my life as I saw fit, and now it is all different. Now I care and am wanting to know the "truth" as hard as it is to define. I wonder what happened...
"Think not of what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country."
The perfect statement of Fascism. As opposed to " . . . that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."
Correct statement, but taken out of my intended context. Instead of relying upon and depending upon government—what my country can do for me—think and live in freedom and being self-supportive as much as possible—what I can do for my country—versus a welfare state. That was my intention, and LBJ created Uncle Sam’s Plantation (A title of a book).
The Left calls Trump and Musk fascists and Hitler—I am neither—and I would never support that type of ideology. I hope trying to find fascism under every stone does not become part of this Substack—it definitely won’t be part of my writings or intentions.
That said, I appreciate your desire to keep our nation on a free footing.
But not taken out of Kennedy’s context. Jack, Bobbie, Teddy, and Joe were Fascists to the core. Anything and anyone was expendable in the service of their concept of the country and their family. Jack and Bobbie authorized multiple attempts to assassinate Castro and approved the assassination of an allied Head of State (Ngo Dinh Diem). Their deaths were Karma served large; live by the sword, die by the sword.
David Lang Wardle, I failed to say thank you for the Navy story you told me awhile back—when others were fleeing from service in the 60’s and 70’s, you were actively seeking it. That’s a heart of a Patriot. So, thank you David!
I thought he only sent advisors to help the S. Vietnamese Army, and was not going to commit more troops as he did not want us to enter into a war. I admit I could be wrong.
Whatever the scenario, the evidence points to the fact that we lost a President to players within our own government. I’m glad it has finally been exposed, and hopefully, we will not allow it to happen again—ever.
It started out as advisors and morphed into troops, think Dr. Nash is correct. But the '64 election message from LBJ was, "Don't vote for that right-wing lunatic Goldwater. He'll get us into WW3." The mushroom cloud ad only ran once, but it was effective.
I would argue that our country has never recovered from the Lincoln assassination, and to a lesser extent, Kennedy. The left surged due to LBJ's lies - calling everything into question. Authority. Religion. Government. Patriotism. Until relatively recently, the vast majority of tenured professors in universities were baptized in the anti-war movement. Colleges of Liberal Arts are essentially worthless today, as a result. There might be a handful of exceptions, but you don't need two hands.
Brief review, Truman sent special forces there to help the French (ironic how fdr's v.p. could be so vehemently anti- commie, aint it?) then Ike did same later. We had 7--8000 there when jfk brought that number to 17000 including the first draftees..
In Robert Caro’s magisterial series on Johnson, he points out that Johnson - close to Truman - saw the grief Truman took for “appearing soft on Communism” before coming around to the positions for which he is now known. and vowed never to be seen in the same light.
I read a couple of great books on this subject. Diem was a devout Catholic, and supposedly anti-Buddhist(later proved untrue). Henry Cabot Lodge met with Diem in person, and later advised Kennedy that the US should stage a coup. Kennedy sent award winning journalist, Marguerite Higgins to investigate. She knew the language and the country and had been the only female embedded with the US troops during the Korean War. In her book, "Our Vietnam Nightmare" she writes about discovering that the Buddhist monasteries had been infiltrated by the Communists, and they were behind the Buddhist monks setting themselves on fire. It had nothing to do with Diem; the Communists had set up a propaganda campaign against him. While Kennedy was waiting for her full report, the CIA went rogue and despite Kennedy saying that Diem and his family should be kept safe, Diem was assassinated. Kennedy was furious. I think it was only two weeks later that he was also killed.
Strange things happen - my copy of "First Things" just arrived and what caught my eye was an ad for a new book from Ignatius Press, "Cardinal Nguyen Van Thuan" subtitled "Man of Joy and Hope" who was imprisoned by the Communists for 13 years. His mother was a special advisor to Ngo Dinh Diem, as you say, "of deep Catholic faith and strong devotion to his country."
Incredible; thank you! It has always bothered me that the two assassinations were in the same month. Yet, crickets. And the compounded damage done! What has come out so far re/ USAID is only the tip of the iceberg. I'm afraid it will be so bad that goal of transparency will morph back into the opaque and the nebulous and never actually see the light of day. This deep state thing is a generational cancer, and we only have one chance to excise it. I would like to be more optimistic, but realism is calling...
The book I mentioned is incredible. The other book, that directed me to Marguerite Higgins, was entitled The AntiChrist by Father Vince Miceli. He was a close friend to Alice and Dietrich Von Hildebrand.
Thank you, again, Mary Anne. I was not familiar with Marguerite Higgins but what little I have gleaned is most compelling. Do you know the cause or nature of her death in 1966?
A question with absolutely no validity, but what if Diem was talking about making peace? "Oh, no, we can't have that. Get rid of him." Had CIA gone rogue by '63? Maybe a two-fer. Kennedy was 3 weeks later.
What I do know about LBJ, which is historically known and accurate, is that he was diametrically opposed to JFK’s policies.
1. JFK did not want to go to war in Vietnam—LBJ got us there in no time, and we lost 58,000 Americans, plus hundreds of thousands wounded in the Line of Duty, who many are still suffering from the effects of that war.
2. JFK said, “Think not of what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.” LBJ’s “War on Poverty” and “Great Society” created the welfare state of government dependence and particularly destroyed the unity of families in black communities, and I’ll add, families of all ethnicities.
That is LBJ’s legacy, and the legacy of the Democratic Party, which continues to this day—it’s a godless and selfish ideology. It’s remarkable to me that JFK has disappeared from the Democratic Party. He’s not quoted or referenced as a hero, yet his policies would have benefitted our nation tremendously—interesting indeed. Just an opinion.
I remember seeing a blurb on page 6 of the local paper in October, '63 that said Kennedy was considering dropping Johnson from the '64 ticket. Never got much attention, except perhaps from one particular individual. One thing's for sure, Landslide Lyndon was no stranger to nefarious activity.
Read his biography. He was one of the meanest nastiest politicians ever to rise to power in this country. No trick was too dirty for him. Truly a disgusting human being. Obama and Biden are merely selfish and corrupt they don’t hold a candle to his level of evil
Yes, his rise to power certainly had its "idiosyncracies." The quote attributed to him that "he would have them n******s voting Democrat for 200 years" rings true, although its authenticity is difficult to verify. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...
Joseph, When I read what you said, it came to me I didn't have a clue of any of this until recently and didn't care. I was innocent and lived my life as I saw fit, and now it is all different. Now I care and am wanting to know the "truth" as hard as it is to define. I wonder what happened...
See Brown and Root.
"Think not of what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country."
The perfect statement of Fascism. As opposed to " . . . that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."
Correct statement, but taken out of my intended context. Instead of relying upon and depending upon government—what my country can do for me—think and live in freedom and being self-supportive as much as possible—what I can do for my country—versus a welfare state. That was my intention, and LBJ created Uncle Sam’s Plantation (A title of a book).
The Left calls Trump and Musk fascists and Hitler—I am neither—and I would never support that type of ideology. I hope trying to find fascism under every stone does not become part of this Substack—it definitely won’t be part of my writings or intentions.
That said, I appreciate your desire to keep our nation on a free footing.
Most of what is said and believed about JFK are patent lies and a fraud on the public.
But not taken out of Kennedy’s context. Jack, Bobbie, Teddy, and Joe were Fascists to the core. Anything and anyone was expendable in the service of their concept of the country and their family. Jack and Bobbie authorized multiple attempts to assassinate Castro and approved the assassination of an allied Head of State (Ngo Dinh Diem). Their deaths were Karma served large; live by the sword, die by the sword.
Thanks for pointing that out!
David Lang Wardle, I failed to say thank you for the Navy story you told me awhile back—when others were fleeing from service in the 60’s and 70’s, you were actively seeking it. That’s a heart of a Patriot. So, thank you David!
As I posted earlier, jfk sent the first draftees there and kept them there.
Yeah, but I think he would have changed course. There would have been no Gulf of Tonkin incident.
I thought he only sent advisors to help the S. Vietnamese Army, and was not going to commit more troops as he did not want us to enter into a war. I admit I could be wrong.
Whatever the scenario, the evidence points to the fact that we lost a President to players within our own government. I’m glad it has finally been exposed, and hopefully, we will not allow it to happen again—ever.
It started out as advisors and morphed into troops, think Dr. Nash is correct. But the '64 election message from LBJ was, "Don't vote for that right-wing lunatic Goldwater. He'll get us into WW3." The mushroom cloud ad only ran once, but it was effective.
I would argue that our country has never recovered from the Lincoln assassination, and to a lesser extent, Kennedy. The left surged due to LBJ's lies - calling everything into question. Authority. Religion. Government. Patriotism. Until relatively recently, the vast majority of tenured professors in universities were baptized in the anti-war movement. Colleges of Liberal Arts are essentially worthless today, as a result. There might be a handful of exceptions, but you don't need two hands.
Brief review, Truman sent special forces there to help the French (ironic how fdr's v.p. could be so vehemently anti- commie, aint it?) then Ike did same later. We had 7--8000 there when jfk brought that number to 17000 including the first draftees..
In Robert Caro’s magisterial series on Johnson, he points out that Johnson - close to Truman - saw the grief Truman took for “appearing soft on Communism” before coming around to the positions for which he is now known. and vowed never to be seen in the same light.
My guess is that Truman allowed Dean Acheson to speak for him. Interesting thesis to cross JFK papers with Venona and Mitrokhin.
What do you know about the Diem assassination? Smells like CIA to me.
I read a couple of great books on this subject. Diem was a devout Catholic, and supposedly anti-Buddhist(later proved untrue). Henry Cabot Lodge met with Diem in person, and later advised Kennedy that the US should stage a coup. Kennedy sent award winning journalist, Marguerite Higgins to investigate. She knew the language and the country and had been the only female embedded with the US troops during the Korean War. In her book, "Our Vietnam Nightmare" she writes about discovering that the Buddhist monasteries had been infiltrated by the Communists, and they were behind the Buddhist monks setting themselves on fire. It had nothing to do with Diem; the Communists had set up a propaganda campaign against him. While Kennedy was waiting for her full report, the CIA went rogue and despite Kennedy saying that Diem and his family should be kept safe, Diem was assassinated. Kennedy was furious. I think it was only two weeks later that he was also killed.
Mary Anne,
Strange things happen - my copy of "First Things" just arrived and what caught my eye was an ad for a new book from Ignatius Press, "Cardinal Nguyen Van Thuan" subtitled "Man of Joy and Hope" who was imprisoned by the Communists for 13 years. His mother was a special advisor to Ngo Dinh Diem, as you say, "of deep Catholic faith and strong devotion to his country."
Incredible; thank you! It has always bothered me that the two assassinations were in the same month. Yet, crickets. And the compounded damage done! What has come out so far re/ USAID is only the tip of the iceberg. I'm afraid it will be so bad that goal of transparency will morph back into the opaque and the nebulous and never actually see the light of day. This deep state thing is a generational cancer, and we only have one chance to excise it. I would like to be more optimistic, but realism is calling...
The book I mentioned is incredible. The other book, that directed me to Marguerite Higgins, was entitled The AntiChrist by Father Vince Miceli. He was a close friend to Alice and Dietrich Von Hildebrand.
Thank you, again, Mary Anne. I was not familiar with Marguerite Higgins but what little I have gleaned is most compelling. Do you know the cause or nature of her death in 1966?
Have no idea. But c.i.a. dirty tricks and s.e. asia.,...
A question with absolutely no validity, but what if Diem was talking about making peace? "Oh, no, we can't have that. Get rid of him." Had CIA gone rogue by '63? Maybe a two-fer. Kennedy was 3 weeks later.
Amen