Precisely what I have always thought. I was a high school sophomore, just getting out of school on that Friday (November 22, 1963), and I was exhilarated to have nailed a perfect score on an Algebra 2 exam. My emotional high ended abruptly when a classmate's mom, driving by to pick up her son, told us the President had been killed by assassination. The ensuing days saw our adolescent political awareness dial up from 0 to hyperacute, as we watched mourning ceremonies and a funeral procession on our little black-and-white TV sets, all the while wondering "How could this have happened?" Little did we know that we were being escorted into more than 50 years of the most vile cover-up in American history.
LBJ died 4 years later out of office. Stark raving mad. Was it natural or enhanced? Scotch that he loved poisoned? Hand of Dulles? Need to change Dulles airport name to Trump.
Just a coincidence, but - Alan Dulles - was a "COUNCIL on FOREIGN RELATIONS" member - and his older brother - John Foster Dulles - was one of the FOUNDERS of the "CFR." Further, John Foster Dulles was secretary of state under president Dwight Eisenhower; and Alan Dulles director of the CIA (its 2nd director).
Oh, and, John Foster Dulles stated that the "Charter of the United Nations supersedes the Constitution of the United States."
Aren't all the excerpt's quoted over the years by authors with grander annual salaries than mine offer up the best synapse of the stealth of this guy and all his merry men. If I read the entire book Tom it could lead to seeking therapy. I might go AK47 or worse, move to Canada! Hahaha
That is funny, as I did work part time for the USPS when I was doing my St. Paul TVI continued education full time day program. It was about that time a first episode of a postal employee going bonkers with spraying lead on co-workers. It was an AK47. Bought dirt cheap. My time spent there sorting packages on the second floor mail division gives me solid evidence to peoples real dire behaviors, are indeed work related! Sigh~
He was 64 at date of death in January 1973, reportedly from a heart attack caused by severe heart disease. The life-long chain smoking apparently caught up with him.
Years ago I read what I mentioned. Coverup? Who knows. So many died that were involved under questionable circumstances. Vince Foster was found dead in a park and there was no physical evidence found at the scene.
I agree LBJ was complicit, because it served him to be, but I think the real mastermind was Allen Dulles. Allen Dulles hated Kennedy and as soon as Kennedy fired Dulles, Dulles 'retired' to his Virginia home where he set up a shadow company CIA. James Angleton ran interference for Dulles with the Oswald narrative. Hunt provided the cash for the assassins and LBJ went along for the ride. Did LBJ know and participate? Probably. But I think it was Dulles with the skills, staff and dark money who penned the deed and then controlled the narrative for the investigation.
It's the Elephant in the room "NOT many Name "ISRAEL' was totally behind this and just worked through all those talked about Here ! CIA is just of chute of the Israeli Mossad
There would be no reason for Israel to be involved. They didn't benefit from the Presidents death. The CIA has brought down many foreign governments. Mossad interested in chasing nazis at that time.
Not quite that simple and way too biased. CIA was a powerful organization before 1960. It was powerful at its inception and it was the OSS grandfathered in. Read The Ghost to see the evolution of the CIA and ‘Mossad’.
Why go after Israel. Tiny country with 8 million Jews and 2 million Muslims. Mossad has enough to do keeping Israeli citizens safe. 8 million jews outside of USA. One of the smallest ethnic groups in the world. Yet in the area of medicine and technology they have given so much.
What I do know about LBJ, which is historically known and accurate, is that he was diametrically opposed to JFK’s policies.
1. JFK did not want to go to war in Vietnam—LBJ got us there in no time, and we lost 58,000 Americans, plus hundreds of thousands wounded in the Line of Duty, who many are still suffering from the effects of that war.
2. JFK said, “Think not of what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.” LBJ’s “War on Poverty” and “Great Society” created the welfare state of government dependence and particularly destroyed the unity of families in black communities, and I’ll add, families of all ethnicities.
That is LBJ’s legacy, and the legacy of the Democratic Party, which continues to this day—it’s a godless and selfish ideology. It’s remarkable to me that JFK has disappeared from the Democratic Party. He’s not quoted or referenced as a hero, yet his policies would have benefitted our nation tremendously—interesting indeed. Just an opinion.
I remember seeing a blurb on page 6 of the local paper in October, '63 that said Kennedy was considering dropping Johnson from the '64 ticket. Never got much attention, except perhaps from one particular individual. One thing's for sure, Landslide Lyndon was no stranger to nefarious activity.
Read his biography. He was one of the meanest nastiest politicians ever to rise to power in this country. No trick was too dirty for him. Truly a disgusting human being. Obama and Biden are merely selfish and corrupt they don’t hold a candle to his level of evil
Yes, his rise to power certainly had its "idiosyncracies." The quote attributed to him that "he would have them n******s voting Democrat for 200 years" rings true, although its authenticity is difficult to verify. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...
Joseph, When I read what you said, it came to me I didn't have a clue of any of this until recently and didn't care. I was innocent and lived my life as I saw fit, and now it is all different. Now I care and am wanting to know the "truth" as hard as it is to define. I wonder what happened...
"Think not of what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country."
The perfect statement of Fascism. As opposed to " . . . that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."
Correct statement, but taken out of my intended context. Instead of relying upon and depending upon government—what my country can do for me—think and live in freedom and being self-supportive as much as possible—what I can do for my country—versus a welfare state. That was my intention, and LBJ created Uncle Sam’s Plantation (A title of a book).
The Left calls Trump and Musk fascists and Hitler—I am neither—and I would never support that type of ideology. I hope trying to find fascism under every stone does not become part of this Substack—it definitely won’t be part of my writings or intentions.
That said, I appreciate your desire to keep our nation on a free footing.
But not taken out of Kennedy’s context. Jack, Bobbie, Teddy, and Joe were Fascists to the core. Anything and anyone was expendable in the service of their concept of the country and their family. Jack and Bobbie authorized multiple attempts to assassinate Castro and approved the assassination of an allied Head of State (Ngo Dinh Diem). Their deaths were Karma served large; live by the sword, die by the sword.
David Lang Wardle, I failed to say thank you for the Navy story you told me awhile back—when others were fleeing from service in the 60’s and 70’s, you were actively seeking it. That’s a heart of a Patriot. So, thank you David!
I thought he only sent advisors to help the S. Vietnamese Army, and was not going to commit more troops as he did not want us to enter into a war. I admit I could be wrong.
Whatever the scenario, the evidence points to the fact that we lost a President to players within our own government. I’m glad it has finally been exposed, and hopefully, we will not allow it to happen again—ever.
It started out as advisors and morphed into troops, think Dr. Nash is correct. But the '64 election message from LBJ was, "Don't vote for that right-wing lunatic Goldwater. He'll get us into WW3." The mushroom cloud ad only ran once, but it was effective.
I would argue that our country has never recovered from the Lincoln assassination, and to a lesser extent, Kennedy. The left surged due to LBJ's lies - calling everything into question. Authority. Religion. Government. Patriotism. Until relatively recently, the vast majority of tenured professors in universities were baptized in the anti-war movement. Colleges of Liberal Arts are essentially worthless today, as a result. There might be a handful of exceptions, but you don't need two hands.
Brief review, Truman sent special forces there to help the French (ironic how fdr's v.p. could be so vehemently anti- commie, aint it?) then Ike did same later. We had 7--8000 there when jfk brought that number to 17000 including the first draftees..
In Robert Caro’s magisterial series on Johnson, he points out that Johnson - close to Truman - saw the grief Truman took for “appearing soft on Communism” before coming around to the positions for which he is now known. and vowed never to be seen in the same light.
A question with absolutely no validity, but what if Diem was talking about making peace? "Oh, no, we can't have that. Get rid of him." Had CIA gone rogue by '63? Maybe a two-fer. Kennedy was 3 weeks later.
I read a couple of great books on this subject. Diem was a devout Catholic, and supposedly anti-Buddhist(later proved untrue). Henry Cabot Lodge met with Diem in person, and later advised Kennedy that the US should stage a coup. Kennedy sent award winning journalist, Marguerite Higgins to investigate. She knew the language and the country and had been the only female embedded with the US troops during the Korean War. In her book, "Our Vietnam Nightmare" she writes about discovering that the Buddhist monasteries had been infiltrated by the Communists, and they were behind the Buddhist monks setting themselves on fire. It had nothing to do with Diem; the Communists had set up a propaganda campaign against him. While Kennedy was waiting for her full report, the CIA went rogue and despite Kennedy saying that Diem and his family should be kept safe, Diem was assassinated. Kennedy was furious. I think it was only two weeks later that he was also killed.
Strange things happen - my copy of "First Things" just arrived and what caught my eye was an ad for a new book from Ignatius Press, "Cardinal Nguyen Van Thuan" subtitled "Man of Joy and Hope" who was imprisoned by the Communists for 13 years. His mother was a special advisor to Ngo Dinh Diem, as you say, "of deep Catholic faith and strong devotion to his country."
Incredible; thank you! It has always bothered me that the two assassinations were in the same month. Yet, crickets. And the compounded damage done! What has come out so far re/ USAID is only the tip of the iceberg. I'm afraid it will be so bad that goal of transparency will morph back into the opaque and the nebulous and never actually see the light of day. This deep state thing is a generational cancer, and we only have one chance to excise it. I would like to be more optimistic, but realism is calling...
The book I mentioned is incredible. The other book, that directed me to Marguerite Higgins, was entitled The AntiChrist by Father Vince Miceli. He was a close friend to Alice and Dietrich Von Hildebrand.
Thank you, again, Mary Anne. I was not familiar with Marguerite Higgins but what little I have gleaned is most compelling. Do you know the cause or nature of her death in 1966?
The thing I wonder is why the Family of J.F.K. are in such opposition to R.F.K. Jr. and his opinion about both the assassinations. Is this denial about the killing and push back on Robert part of the all too often blind mass formation? I find it hard to live in such a devious world, no wonder people would rather believe the fairy tale.
Some of the Kennedy's may have skeletons in their closet. In family's, not all members are close or in agreement over everything. Family's are complicated.
The article claims 'Johnson continued to ruthlessly cause unnecessary deaths and life-altering injuries sustained by hundreds of thousands in the Vietnam War, an outcome that the Kennedy administration would not have tolerated." /that claim, and other specious claims that Kennedy was a peacemaker, run directly contrary to history. Most of the Kennedy history was fabricated by his flacks.
If you have a point you want to make about JFK and the history of him and his family, why not write a piece detailing all the facts and post it to your sub stack?
"The family" is two individuals highly likely paid off to at the nth hour (not years ago) speak out against his reputation. How many family members/relatives in our country would take a kickback to say something someone else feeds them about a family member? Uh huh, many sinful family members who walk a different walk for self gain.
I sense it is much more complex than a "payoff". These actions are deeply wounded reactions that have not been addressed and healed. It looks like simple ego doing what ego does... albeit with Power, Money and Prestige in the world. People can be very threatened by the truth and do everything in their realm to side rail it, thinking that they are doing it for "our good" That is my take, Susanne.
The taking of the body always bothered me and the autopsy report and the testimonies of those who saw the body afterwards. It doesn’t surprise me one bit. This also leads to 9-11. I watched in horror like we all did and being in construction for 30 years and how those towers fell so “perfectly” always bothered me. I can’t for the life of me believe that they would’ve pancaked all the way down like that. You’re asking every floor to fall under the weight of the one on top and the only way that happens is taking out the building from the bottom. I’ve seen it done many times. It doesn’t take massive explosives that one thinks. It’s precision cuts and minor amounts of explosive materials. You can hear explosions from many of the tapes from that day when the command center was in the lobby. How is that possible when the planes entered the buildings on the uppermost floors? I’m not some conspiracy theory nut job either but I do know we gave up our civil liberties that day all in the name of “being safe”. Are we safer today? Does anyone believe this couldn’t happen again? Not me. A coordinated effort would be needed but it’s more than very possible. If our govt could take out a sitting president anything is possible.
Guilty as charged! The heavy hand of Lyndon Johnson was also evident in convincing JFK to come to Texas in the first place. His people were also involved in picking the venue for his after motor cade speech and changing his parade route to make the deadly and slow detour through Dealy Plaza, which should never have been allowed by a competent Secret Service!
the only cover up more insisious than this is 9-11. between magic bullets and jet fuel the lies arent only obvious but retarded in their lack of scientific reality. Sadly i believe half the electorate arent smart enough to grasp scientific truth nor logic to demand the heads of these criminals be put on pike for public display
When I saw the movie "JFK" over 30 years ago, it hit me like a ton of bricks. I remember a wave of criticism and ridicule leveled at Oliver Stone in its wake, particularly from a smirking George Will (who I respected as a very smart man at the time). Will basically dismissed the film as stacked conjecture. It's been a while, but my recollection is that Stone ultimately laid this at Johnson's feet.
My first sight of the Zapruder film also hit me like a ton of bricks. I told myself that the coup de grace came from the front, and that no one would EVER change my mind about that. Years later, I saw a documentary film that I WISH I could find again, that whether legit or not, was an impressive graphical defense of shots only from the rear.
It suits the purposes of spooks and assassins to have on display an array of theories and explanations. Perhaps the IC cooked up most themselves. I'm a big boy now; withholding these truths after more than 60 years is quite obviously NOT for the purpose of protecting my psyche, but rather for protecting the guilty, whose spirits live on in the federal government, even if their bodies do not.
The LBJ library and museum is in Austin. I wonder what the atmosphere is like there at the moment; whether new findings would be put on display there; and whether the staff spends part of its day on job search sites.
I recently saw an airing of the secret tapes made by Billie Sol Estes, a known associate of LBJ, who made the tape to protect himself from “dying suddenly”. These tapes indicated Johnson gave the order, but not necessarily that he was the Kingpin. This piece provides plausible analysis that he was.
As I recall good old billy sol was the reason an investigator for the US Ag Dept committed suicide by multiple shots to the heart with a 22 cal pump rifle in remorse for exposing the good ol' deacon estis of fiddling ag. loans. That according to duval county grand jury. Think I am right on all that
Henry Marshall was shot on his farm in Robertson County near Waco. As I recall it was a bolt action 22 cal rifle. And the five shots would be impossible to be self inflicted. I don't remember the Duval county grand proceedings but it was a LBJ stronghold. And Duval county is close to 300 miles from Waco.
I was 14 when JFK was murdered. I recall the comments at that time of LBJ being accused of masterminding the assassination. J. Edgar Hoover was also implicated because of his intense dislike for both JFK and his brother Bobby the AG. Cyril Wecht world renowned Forensic Pathologist also conducted an intense investigation into the murder of JFK however his findings were dismissed as well as many others who claimed Oswald was a nothing more than a fall guy.
So now that president Trump has demanded the release of records to determine what and who was responsible for the murder of JFK as well as Martin Luther King one would think the radical Democrats as well as most Republicans and especially the drive by media would be thrilled to hear who really was behind the events of November 22, 1963 in Dealey plaza, Texas. They ain't because this release of records opens many doors that those self described 'Elites' do not want those doors opened. Given the highly questionable doings of past Presidents and administrations exposing the truth of who was behind the JFK assassination leads to many many more investigations which of course would result in rewriting plenty of history along with destroying the alleged credibility of many politicians and bureaucrats.
Given the current response to Trump's audit of Government waste and the Juvenile conduct of the Liberal hacks the air quality of America which is is presently suffering from the mass stupidity will become a heavy black fog of smoke and respiratory diseases will increase a thousandfold. Talk about a new pandemic! Far more than Tesla vehicles will be set on fire. Damage control is being implemented and be assured another event is being concocted to draw attention away from these assassinations of decades gone by. The truth of the JFK assassination will not only cause untold grief for the Left as many phonies of the Right will also be exposed.
It is proposed here that "hundreds" of witnesses and whistleblowers were eliminated to achieve this coup. GOD. We might as well be living in the U.S.S.R. I remember hearing long ago that Johnson was in the motorcade and dropped down to "tie his shoe" at the moment of the assassination. The sole fingerprint of this Wallace thug in the Depository kinda nails it, doesn't it.
And can’t forget that LBJ started the War on Poverty in 1964, which not only is the elephant in the room of fraud and wasteful spending, spending over a trillion dollars a year to make Americans dependent on government, but clearly has led to the destruction of too many American families and the American work ethic.
It was not 30 minutes after I finished the audio book: The Devil’s Chessboard by Talbot that this post popped up. Timely, indeed.
Question: With the unfurling of more Dulles deeds and the tone he sat continuing to this day, do you think monuments and airports will ever be renamed for the sake of decency?
Listen to Dr Jack Kruse on the Donny Jones podcast it’s long about 4 hours. His information will add challenges to your thinking. Things like the Apollo Affair -the uranium that went missing from Pennsylvania under LBJ, and where did it go? Israel. Or listen to Nicole Shanahan’s podcast (sept 2024) with Andy Wakefield, Dr Jack Kruse and Mary Bowman taking about autism and Covid vaccines using SV40 which was created in a bioweapons lab that both Kennedy’s knew about and that ties into the assassination of both men.
The book called Dr. Marys monkey: How the unsolved murder of a doctor, a secret laboratory in New Orleans and cancer causing monkey viruses are linked to Lee Harvey Oswald, the JFK assassination and emerging global epidemics. written by Edward T Haslem.
Here is some other information that is so disturbing. Once you start digging in you can’t go back. Cally is a Council of Foreign Relations player = FABIAN. He is a covert agent to destroy America. He says he hates seed oils, but behind the scenes, he and his sister are just like Gates and the eugenicist. Remember their Dad, Grady worked for the main Eugenicist David Rockefeller.
I told ya' who they are in the Danny Jones podcast and now I am laughing hard at MAHA for letting in the sandbox. @NicoleShanahan
Precisely what I have always thought. I was a high school sophomore, just getting out of school on that Friday (November 22, 1963), and I was exhilarated to have nailed a perfect score on an Algebra 2 exam. My emotional high ended abruptly when a classmate's mom, driving by to pick up her son, told us the President had been killed by assassination. The ensuing days saw our adolescent political awareness dial up from 0 to hyperacute, as we watched mourning ceremonies and a funeral procession on our little black-and-white TV sets, all the while wondering "How could this have happened?" Little did we know that we were being escorted into more than 50 years of the most vile cover-up in American history.
LBJ died 4 years later out of office. Stark raving mad. Was it natural or enhanced? Scotch that he loved poisoned? Hand of Dulles? Need to change Dulles airport name to Trump.
Just a coincidence, but - Alan Dulles - was a "COUNCIL on FOREIGN RELATIONS" member - and his older brother - John Foster Dulles - was one of the FOUNDERS of the "CFR." Further, John Foster Dulles was secretary of state under president Dwight Eisenhower; and Alan Dulles director of the CIA (its 2nd director).
Oh, and, John Foster Dulles stated that the "Charter of the United Nations supersedes the Constitution of the United States."
The Grand slam of Evil doers.
I knew of Dulles for decades,
and always cursed his name any time at the sound of his name of that DC airport.
Read the book. JFK and Dulles.
Aren't all the excerpt's quoted over the years by authors with grander annual salaries than mine offer up the best synapse of the stealth of this guy and all his merry men. If I read the entire book Tom it could lead to seeking therapy. I might go AK47 or worse, move to Canada! Hahaha
Ha ha, but when I read AK47 or worse, it struck an uncomfortable chord, Randy. I hope it's just my trigger and not yours (ha ha)
That is funny, as I did work part time for the USPS when I was doing my St. Paul TVI continued education full time day program. It was about that time a first episode of a postal employee going bonkers with spraying lead on co-workers. It was an AK47. Bought dirt cheap. My time spent there sorting packages on the second floor mail division gives me solid evidence to peoples real dire behaviors, are indeed work related! Sigh~
Correction. 4 years later.
Johnson's term ended in 1969 and he died in 1973. Could you be thinking of someone else?
No. Time line off. I thought it was right after. How old was he?
He was 64 at date of death in January 1973, reportedly from a heart attack caused by severe heart disease. The life-long chain smoking apparently caught up with him.
Years ago I read what I mentioned. Coverup? Who knows. So many died that were involved under questionable circumstances. Vince Foster was found dead in a park and there was no physical evidence found at the scene.
True enough.
I was 10 and like most Americans, too many watched the motor cade live and in color.
It was in black and white at my house. I was 6 years old and remember it vividly. I was very sad.
Amazingly unforgettable. Like a Nation wide instant horror video recording,
placed in our minds in split seconds. Some things you can not un-see!
Do veterans have similar personal episodes? And are unable to delete them?
I agree LBJ was complicit, because it served him to be, but I think the real mastermind was Allen Dulles. Allen Dulles hated Kennedy and as soon as Kennedy fired Dulles, Dulles 'retired' to his Virginia home where he set up a shadow company CIA. James Angleton ran interference for Dulles with the Oswald narrative. Hunt provided the cash for the assassins and LBJ went along for the ride. Did LBJ know and participate? Probably. But I think it was Dulles with the skills, staff and dark money who penned the deed and then controlled the narrative for the investigation.
It's the Elephant in the room "NOT many Name "ISRAEL' was totally behind this and just worked through all those talked about Here ! CIA is just of chute of the Israeli Mossad
There would be no reason for Israel to be involved. They didn't benefit from the Presidents death. The CIA has brought down many foreign governments. Mossad interested in chasing nazis at that time.
Not quite that simple and way too biased. CIA was a powerful organization before 1960. It was powerful at its inception and it was the OSS grandfathered in. Read The Ghost to see the evolution of the CIA and ‘Mossad’.
Why go after Israel. Tiny country with 8 million Jews and 2 million Muslims. Mossad has enough to do keeping Israeli citizens safe. 8 million jews outside of USA. One of the smallest ethnic groups in the world. Yet in the area of medicine and technology they have given so much.
What I do know about LBJ, which is historically known and accurate, is that he was diametrically opposed to JFK’s policies.
1. JFK did not want to go to war in Vietnam—LBJ got us there in no time, and we lost 58,000 Americans, plus hundreds of thousands wounded in the Line of Duty, who many are still suffering from the effects of that war.
2. JFK said, “Think not of what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country.” LBJ’s “War on Poverty” and “Great Society” created the welfare state of government dependence and particularly destroyed the unity of families in black communities, and I’ll add, families of all ethnicities.
That is LBJ’s legacy, and the legacy of the Democratic Party, which continues to this day—it’s a godless and selfish ideology. It’s remarkable to me that JFK has disappeared from the Democratic Party. He’s not quoted or referenced as a hero, yet his policies would have benefitted our nation tremendously—interesting indeed. Just an opinion.
I remember seeing a blurb on page 6 of the local paper in October, '63 that said Kennedy was considering dropping Johnson from the '64 ticket. Never got much attention, except perhaps from one particular individual. One thing's for sure, Landslide Lyndon was no stranger to nefarious activity.
Read his biography. He was one of the meanest nastiest politicians ever to rise to power in this country. No trick was too dirty for him. Truly a disgusting human being. Obama and Biden are merely selfish and corrupt they don’t hold a candle to his level of evil
Yes, his rise to power certainly had its "idiosyncracies." The quote attributed to him that "he would have them n******s voting Democrat for 200 years" rings true, although its authenticity is difficult to verify. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...
Joseph, When I read what you said, it came to me I didn't have a clue of any of this until recently and didn't care. I was innocent and lived my life as I saw fit, and now it is all different. Now I care and am wanting to know the "truth" as hard as it is to define. I wonder what happened...
See Brown and Root.
"Think not of what your country can do for you but what you can do for your country."
The perfect statement of Fascism. As opposed to " . . . that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."
Correct statement, but taken out of my intended context. Instead of relying upon and depending upon government—what my country can do for me—think and live in freedom and being self-supportive as much as possible—what I can do for my country—versus a welfare state. That was my intention, and LBJ created Uncle Sam’s Plantation (A title of a book).
The Left calls Trump and Musk fascists and Hitler—I am neither—and I would never support that type of ideology. I hope trying to find fascism under every stone does not become part of this Substack—it definitely won’t be part of my writings or intentions.
That said, I appreciate your desire to keep our nation on a free footing.
Most of what is said and believed about JFK are patent lies and a fraud on the public.
But not taken out of Kennedy’s context. Jack, Bobbie, Teddy, and Joe were Fascists to the core. Anything and anyone was expendable in the service of their concept of the country and their family. Jack and Bobbie authorized multiple attempts to assassinate Castro and approved the assassination of an allied Head of State (Ngo Dinh Diem). Their deaths were Karma served large; live by the sword, die by the sword.
Thanks for pointing that out!
David Lang Wardle, I failed to say thank you for the Navy story you told me awhile back—when others were fleeing from service in the 60’s and 70’s, you were actively seeking it. That’s a heart of a Patriot. So, thank you David!
As I posted earlier, jfk sent the first draftees there and kept them there.
Yeah, but I think he would have changed course. There would have been no Gulf of Tonkin incident.
I thought he only sent advisors to help the S. Vietnamese Army, and was not going to commit more troops as he did not want us to enter into a war. I admit I could be wrong.
Whatever the scenario, the evidence points to the fact that we lost a President to players within our own government. I’m glad it has finally been exposed, and hopefully, we will not allow it to happen again—ever.
It started out as advisors and morphed into troops, think Dr. Nash is correct. But the '64 election message from LBJ was, "Don't vote for that right-wing lunatic Goldwater. He'll get us into WW3." The mushroom cloud ad only ran once, but it was effective.
I would argue that our country has never recovered from the Lincoln assassination, and to a lesser extent, Kennedy. The left surged due to LBJ's lies - calling everything into question. Authority. Religion. Government. Patriotism. Until relatively recently, the vast majority of tenured professors in universities were baptized in the anti-war movement. Colleges of Liberal Arts are essentially worthless today, as a result. There might be a handful of exceptions, but you don't need two hands.
Brief review, Truman sent special forces there to help the French (ironic how fdr's v.p. could be so vehemently anti- commie, aint it?) then Ike did same later. We had 7--8000 there when jfk brought that number to 17000 including the first draftees..
In Robert Caro’s magisterial series on Johnson, he points out that Johnson - close to Truman - saw the grief Truman took for “appearing soft on Communism” before coming around to the positions for which he is now known. and vowed never to be seen in the same light.
My guess is that Truman allowed Dean Acheson to speak for him. Interesting thesis to cross JFK papers with Venona and Mitrokhin.
What do you know about the Diem assassination? Smells like CIA to me.
Have no idea. But c.i.a. dirty tricks and s.e. asia.,...
A question with absolutely no validity, but what if Diem was talking about making peace? "Oh, no, we can't have that. Get rid of him." Had CIA gone rogue by '63? Maybe a two-fer. Kennedy was 3 weeks later.
I read a couple of great books on this subject. Diem was a devout Catholic, and supposedly anti-Buddhist(later proved untrue). Henry Cabot Lodge met with Diem in person, and later advised Kennedy that the US should stage a coup. Kennedy sent award winning journalist, Marguerite Higgins to investigate. She knew the language and the country and had been the only female embedded with the US troops during the Korean War. In her book, "Our Vietnam Nightmare" she writes about discovering that the Buddhist monasteries had been infiltrated by the Communists, and they were behind the Buddhist monks setting themselves on fire. It had nothing to do with Diem; the Communists had set up a propaganda campaign against him. While Kennedy was waiting for her full report, the CIA went rogue and despite Kennedy saying that Diem and his family should be kept safe, Diem was assassinated. Kennedy was furious. I think it was only two weeks later that he was also killed.
Mary Anne,
Strange things happen - my copy of "First Things" just arrived and what caught my eye was an ad for a new book from Ignatius Press, "Cardinal Nguyen Van Thuan" subtitled "Man of Joy and Hope" who was imprisoned by the Communists for 13 years. His mother was a special advisor to Ngo Dinh Diem, as you say, "of deep Catholic faith and strong devotion to his country."
Incredible; thank you! It has always bothered me that the two assassinations were in the same month. Yet, crickets. And the compounded damage done! What has come out so far re/ USAID is only the tip of the iceberg. I'm afraid it will be so bad that goal of transparency will morph back into the opaque and the nebulous and never actually see the light of day. This deep state thing is a generational cancer, and we only have one chance to excise it. I would like to be more optimistic, but realism is calling...
The book I mentioned is incredible. The other book, that directed me to Marguerite Higgins, was entitled The AntiChrist by Father Vince Miceli. He was a close friend to Alice and Dietrich Von Hildebrand.
Thank you, again, Mary Anne. I was not familiar with Marguerite Higgins but what little I have gleaned is most compelling. Do you know the cause or nature of her death in 1966?
Amen
The thing I wonder is why the Family of J.F.K. are in such opposition to R.F.K. Jr. and his opinion about both the assassinations. Is this denial about the killing and push back on Robert part of the all too often blind mass formation? I find it hard to live in such a devious world, no wonder people would rather believe the fairy tale.
Folks as entwined with the mob as their family was cannot afford open windows.
Some of the Kennedy's may have skeletons in their closet. In family's, not all members are close or in agreement over everything. Family's are complicated.
Very true.
Maybe the JFK family got a big payoff for their silence, along with a threat of their own demise 🤷🏼♂️
JFK was no saint, either. And the Camelot fiction and the con that he wanted to end the Cold War is laughable.
I don't believe we are discussing the morality of JFK, the more important focus is the underpinnings of the event of his assassination.
The article claims 'Johnson continued to ruthlessly cause unnecessary deaths and life-altering injuries sustained by hundreds of thousands in the Vietnam War, an outcome that the Kennedy administration would not have tolerated." /that claim, and other specious claims that Kennedy was a peacemaker, run directly contrary to history. Most of the Kennedy history was fabricated by his flacks.
If you have a point you want to make about JFK and the history of him and his family, why not write a piece detailing all the facts and post it to your sub stack?
Jackie invented the Camelot narrative and it was promoted as a favor to her to keep her quiet
Kennedy's stooges were only too happy to advance that fairy tale.
"The family" is two individuals highly likely paid off to at the nth hour (not years ago) speak out against his reputation. How many family members/relatives in our country would take a kickback to say something someone else feeds them about a family member? Uh huh, many sinful family members who walk a different walk for self gain.
I sense it is much more complex than a "payoff". These actions are deeply wounded reactions that have not been addressed and healed. It looks like simple ego doing what ego does... albeit with Power, Money and Prestige in the world. People can be very threatened by the truth and do everything in their realm to side rail it, thinking that they are doing it for "our good" That is my take, Susanne.
Pretty compelling case against LBJ.
The taking of the body always bothered me and the autopsy report and the testimonies of those who saw the body afterwards. It doesn’t surprise me one bit. This also leads to 9-11. I watched in horror like we all did and being in construction for 30 years and how those towers fell so “perfectly” always bothered me. I can’t for the life of me believe that they would’ve pancaked all the way down like that. You’re asking every floor to fall under the weight of the one on top and the only way that happens is taking out the building from the bottom. I’ve seen it done many times. It doesn’t take massive explosives that one thinks. It’s precision cuts and minor amounts of explosive materials. You can hear explosions from many of the tapes from that day when the command center was in the lobby. How is that possible when the planes entered the buildings on the uppermost floors? I’m not some conspiracy theory nut job either but I do know we gave up our civil liberties that day all in the name of “being safe”. Are we safer today? Does anyone believe this couldn’t happen again? Not me. A coordinated effort would be needed but it’s more than very possible. If our govt could take out a sitting president anything is possible.
Your experience adds credence to your suppositions. Scary, when you think about it.
https://rumble.com/v12urxr-september-11-the-new-pearl-harbor.html
A long watch. It doesn’t answer the many questions but certainly asks some important ones.
Guilty as charged! The heavy hand of Lyndon Johnson was also evident in convincing JFK to come to Texas in the first place. His people were also involved in picking the venue for his after motor cade speech and changing his parade route to make the deadly and slow detour through Dealy Plaza, which should never have been allowed by a competent Secret Service!
He was also warned not to go to Dallas by Jeane Dixon, but who would listen to an astrologer and psychic...
the only cover up more insisious than this is 9-11. between magic bullets and jet fuel the lies arent only obvious but retarded in their lack of scientific reality. Sadly i believe half the electorate arent smart enough to grasp scientific truth nor logic to demand the heads of these criminals be put on pike for public display
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When I saw the movie "JFK" over 30 years ago, it hit me like a ton of bricks. I remember a wave of criticism and ridicule leveled at Oliver Stone in its wake, particularly from a smirking George Will (who I respected as a very smart man at the time). Will basically dismissed the film as stacked conjecture. It's been a while, but my recollection is that Stone ultimately laid this at Johnson's feet.
My first sight of the Zapruder film also hit me like a ton of bricks. I told myself that the coup de grace came from the front, and that no one would EVER change my mind about that. Years later, I saw a documentary film that I WISH I could find again, that whether legit or not, was an impressive graphical defense of shots only from the rear.
It suits the purposes of spooks and assassins to have on display an array of theories and explanations. Perhaps the IC cooked up most themselves. I'm a big boy now; withholding these truths after more than 60 years is quite obviously NOT for the purpose of protecting my psyche, but rather for protecting the guilty, whose spirits live on in the federal government, even if their bodies do not.
The LBJ library and museum is in Austin. I wonder what the atmosphere is like there at the moment; whether new findings would be put on display there; and whether the staff spends part of its day on job search sites.
Interesting muses on your part.
I recently saw an airing of the secret tapes made by Billie Sol Estes, a known associate of LBJ, who made the tape to protect himself from “dying suddenly”. These tapes indicated Johnson gave the order, but not necessarily that he was the Kingpin. This piece provides plausible analysis that he was.
As I recall good old billy sol was the reason an investigator for the US Ag Dept committed suicide by multiple shots to the heart with a 22 cal pump rifle in remorse for exposing the good ol' deacon estis of fiddling ag. loans. That according to duval county grand jury. Think I am right on all that
Henry Marshall was shot on his farm in Robertson County near Waco. As I recall it was a bolt action 22 cal rifle. And the five shots would be impossible to be self inflicted. I don't remember the Duval county grand proceedings but it was a LBJ stronghold. And Duval county is close to 300 miles from Waco.
That was my memory of what was reported from various sources ~60 yrs ago
Lots of skeletons in Duval County...
I was 14 when JFK was murdered. I recall the comments at that time of LBJ being accused of masterminding the assassination. J. Edgar Hoover was also implicated because of his intense dislike for both JFK and his brother Bobby the AG. Cyril Wecht world renowned Forensic Pathologist also conducted an intense investigation into the murder of JFK however his findings were dismissed as well as many others who claimed Oswald was a nothing more than a fall guy.
So now that president Trump has demanded the release of records to determine what and who was responsible for the murder of JFK as well as Martin Luther King one would think the radical Democrats as well as most Republicans and especially the drive by media would be thrilled to hear who really was behind the events of November 22, 1963 in Dealey plaza, Texas. They ain't because this release of records opens many doors that those self described 'Elites' do not want those doors opened. Given the highly questionable doings of past Presidents and administrations exposing the truth of who was behind the JFK assassination leads to many many more investigations which of course would result in rewriting plenty of history along with destroying the alleged credibility of many politicians and bureaucrats.
Given the current response to Trump's audit of Government waste and the Juvenile conduct of the Liberal hacks the air quality of America which is is presently suffering from the mass stupidity will become a heavy black fog of smoke and respiratory diseases will increase a thousandfold. Talk about a new pandemic! Far more than Tesla vehicles will be set on fire. Damage control is being implemented and be assured another event is being concocted to draw attention away from these assassinations of decades gone by. The truth of the JFK assassination will not only cause untold grief for the Left as many phonies of the Right will also be exposed.
It is proposed here that "hundreds" of witnesses and whistleblowers were eliminated to achieve this coup. GOD. We might as well be living in the U.S.S.R. I remember hearing long ago that Johnson was in the motorcade and dropped down to "tie his shoe" at the moment of the assassination. The sole fingerprint of this Wallace thug in the Depository kinda nails it, doesn't it.
Always a suspicion of mine. As far as I'm concerned, Johnson was Pond Scum.
And can’t forget that LBJ started the War on Poverty in 1964, which not only is the elephant in the room of fraud and wasteful spending, spending over a trillion dollars a year to make Americans dependent on government, but clearly has led to the destruction of too many American families and the American work ethic.
Why can’t we give peace a chance and end the war on poverty? https://open.substack.com/pub/lizlasorte/p/give-peace-a-chance-end-the-war-on-9f8?r=76q58&utm_medium=ios
It was not 30 minutes after I finished the audio book: The Devil’s Chessboard by Talbot that this post popped up. Timely, indeed.
Question: With the unfurling of more Dulles deeds and the tone he sat continuing to this day, do you think monuments and airports will ever be renamed for the sake of decency?
Listen to Dr Jack Kruse on the Donny Jones podcast it’s long about 4 hours. His information will add challenges to your thinking. Things like the Apollo Affair -the uranium that went missing from Pennsylvania under LBJ, and where did it go? Israel. Or listen to Nicole Shanahan’s podcast (sept 2024) with Andy Wakefield, Dr Jack Kruse and Mary Bowman taking about autism and Covid vaccines using SV40 which was created in a bioweapons lab that both Kennedy’s knew about and that ties into the assassination of both men.
The book called Dr. Marys monkey: How the unsolved murder of a doctor, a secret laboratory in New Orleans and cancer causing monkey viruses are linked to Lee Harvey Oswald, the JFK assassination and emerging global epidemics. written by Edward T Haslem.
Contamination of the polio vaccine and the cancer epidemic we have today. From the book above.
Here is some other information that is so disturbing. Once you start digging in you can’t go back. Cally is a Council of Foreign Relations player = FABIAN. He is a covert agent to destroy America. He says he hates seed oils, but behind the scenes, he and his sister are just like Gates and the eugenicist. Remember their Dad, Grady worked for the main Eugenicist David Rockefeller.
I told ya' who they are in the Danny Jones podcast and now I am laughing hard at MAHA for letting in the sandbox. @NicoleShanahan
Are you speaking of Cally Means?
Look up Dr Jack Kruse. He’s a neurosurgeon on the Danny Jones podcast.
Yes Callie and Casey