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The UK System isn’t exactly a model of efficiency or quality either

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The State should not be involved in healthcare delivery.

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Nor should these giant conglomerate providers be allowed to be the monopolies they are 🤷🏼‍♂️. They have forced the small medical practices to conform or close 🤬

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Exactly!

The mirage of single payer is no guarantee of access to actual care.

Overall longevity is more related to the personal habits of the population than to their access to government controlled funds and "healthcare".

Those who can adapt to this reality with diet and lifestyle changes will be in better health overall.

(Go outside! and get a good diet of meat, veggies and don't forget the weeds, people!)

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Disappointed that Japan was excluded from the analysis, because they have a higher and healthier life span than all the countries listed. Makes the US system just more disgraceful and we can blame all the Congressman that voted for Obamacare and John McCain who stopped President Trump from fixing the system. That's why he lashed out on McCain.

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I recently spent the better part of a month in Scotland. I almost had to laugh at the TV ads for private insurance to get you in sooner for health care.....but in reality, it is sad and is no laughing matter.

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I totally agree with you. I have relatives that live in Wales and it takes months to get to see a physician, and if you are elderly, they will find a way to not prolong your life. As bad as it is here, I'ts still better than that. Unfortunately, the pharmaceutical companies have alot of control in our well being.

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I have a 74 yo relative in the UK. He needed a procedure in 2022 and he is still waiting. But those in England anyway are mind-numbing proud of their healthcare system. I worked with a Brit some years ago, mouthy thing that said everyone is seen immediately and no one waits. Psyop works.

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Everything I hear about it confirms what you said about it. Theh have been coming here for med care at least since the end of WWII

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There is a private medical system in all these countries if you can afford it. In Italy, a private physician was called to the hotel to determine Gail's illness. Pneumonia was the diagnosis. Italy is not known for cleanliness in their public rest rooms. Charged 230 Euros. Went to the drugstore for the medication and it was much cheaper than in the USA. Our Global Big Pharma companies derive over 50% of their profit by manipulating the pricing in the USA. Other countries cap their pricing and reduce their rights for exclusive sales to encourage competition. Biden claiming that he is fixing the problem is political rhetoric and smoke and mirrors. Now Lilly and Pfizer are pushing Rx drugs directly to the consumer with AI programs. By passing the checks and balances in the system.

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Stunning! Guessing a similar study of our middle and secondary education performance would be equally abysmal.

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For those too young to remember, Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's speech at Harvard in 1978 was met with derision, "Orthodoxy" they screamed. "How dare you!" That was two generations ago. Is it any wonder that our “elites” today have become incoherent? They are teaching our children. https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1836208862782734568.html

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"The State should not be involved in healthcare delivery."

AMEN!!! Or in managing education.

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9 hrs ago·edited 3 hrs ago

Last February 7th, 2023, my stepmother suddenly dropped to the floor in the home she shared with my elderly Dad, who was almost totally dependent on her for care. She had called Emergency Services to come to their home after he had a fall, but while ES was inside the home, she herself succumbed. She died either on the spot, or in the ambulance, I don't know which.

My brother called me from out of state at something like 4 am to notify me. We had been expecting my Dad to go first, but not so. I was the only one in a position to do so, so I wound up flying east same day to stay with my Dad. I was with him for 5+ weeks, frantically trying to manage their multi-acre property, complete with a score of animals that included cats, dogs, and horses. While I was there, the elderly horse named Coffee dropped in her stall, and I dealt with the vet to get her up again. After we got her up, she still died in her stall the next morning.

Adding to that, I was rushing my Dad to medical appointments. Cardiologist. Hematologist. Podiatrist. I was scrambling to find a place for him to stay with assisted living. I had to get him tested for TB, I was getting the run-around due to HIPAA. Finally, we found a place for him to stay.

He has to get to the hematologist every 2-4 weeks for a transfusion. On the phone, my uncle read off a figure on a medical statement, probably medicare, of the dollar figure attached to a 2-unit (4 hour) transfusion. It's stunning. The figure I recall hearing, bearing in mind that I did not see this myself, was $157,000. Each session.

In November of 2021, the report I heard was that my Dad was given 3 months to 6 months MAX to survive. That was nearly 3 years ago.

What a bitter mix of emotions it is to want the best for my Dad but to see that for my uncle, his executor, to keep him going involves expenses that cumulatively bring down nations.

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Dear Dr Malone:

You are obviously aware of the W.H.O. over the Uttar Pradesh (India) miracle. With one of the highest death rates from Covid in India, Uttar Pradesh put together "Kits" to be handed out at public clinics to anyone coming in with respiratory distress. They were told to share the kit with all members of their household. Death rates plummeted; some say to almost zero. The W.H.O. congratulated U.P. on their success, but would not publicize the nature of the treatment, which apparently contained some ingredients those wishing to emphasize vaccine use wished no one to hear about.

When you have refreshed your memory and verified this information, please ensure you have at least "guaranteed-to-read" access to RFKjr, and supply this information to his group. He is likely to have a major, hopefully positive, effect on the U.S.A. healthcare industry.

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Dr.Suryakant, Professor and Head, Department of Respiratory Medicine, King George Medical University, Lucknow, India, National Vice Chairman, Indian medical Association says the kit contained ivermectin, doxycycline and zinc, use started in August, 2020, and during the Covid episode in April-May 2021, test positivity fell from 20% to 4% in 20 days. ( Interview by Christine Clark.)

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Dr Malone you must have read my mind. I have been stewing for several hours worrying about our 20 year old daughter who is married , pregnant and no health insurance. They have been paying out of pocket for her Dr appointments. Her story: I had our beautiful daughter at age 46. My husband retired hence no health insurance for her. She went on Medicaid. With Medicaid she couldn’t make more than $13 an hour. So she had to stay under that amount.

She got married a year ago and couldn’t stay on Medicaid because they made too much .

Her husband works for CocaCola as a semi truck driver. They have good benefits but 3 different people gave him different dates for signing up for health insurance. He went in to sign her up and the date for signing had past. Next sign up is November 1, with coverage starting January 1. She found out she was pregnant. She had no coverage until Jan.1 and is due the end of February.

We have tried Obamacare. Their single up is Oct 1 with starting date January 1. We talked with our insurance guy and he said there’s nothing they can do unless his insurance decides that they will cover her early. They petitioned once and was denied. They petitioned again , this time my husband as their attorney petitioned. They have not heard back from them yet. This mother is a bit frantic.

Thank heavens she is a healthy woman and not Covid Vaxed. They are paying out of pocket her Drs appointments. Which is expensive. What can they do? This momma has been praying hard that CocaCola with start benefits sooner.

Something has to be done with our healthcare.

I’m so frustrated that the illegal aliens get Medicaid when they cross the border and money and food stamps and housing and my daughter can’t even get healthcare. Something has to change. Help!

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I’m reading that as soon as they cross the border they are handed a Medicaid card. But of course you cant believe all that you read. The government needs to revamp the system so it can benefit all. I don’t think socialized medicine is the answer. My friend’s mom lived in Canada and needed heart surgery. It took 18 months for her to get the surgery. Thank heavens she didn’t die before she got her surgery. There has to be change. My daughter is working full time but the company she is working for does not offer health insurance.

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I think the answer is for people to focus more on prevention (healthy diet/lifestyle) and go to naturopathic physicians for treatment when needed. If everyone put their focus there, it would put the allopathic medical/pharmaceutical/health insurance industry out of business. Most health insurance companies don't cover naturopathic treatments, but they cost a LOT less.

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I agree but that doesn’t help with pregnancy . You have to be checked. A friend had her baby at home and the baby died. She had an emergency and didn’t make to the hospital.

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I agree with you in this instance. I am so sorry. I should have made it clear that I'm referring to physical illnesses. Prenatal care is very important and I wouldn't suggest anyone have a baby at home unless they have a qualified mid-wife or nurse there. Being in an area with a hospital nearby would be advisable as well. The medical industry is good for some things and could have helped for sure in this situation.

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She lives about 15 minutes from the hospital. If all else fails that would have to declare bankruptcy. They are newly weds with hand me down furniture a washer and dryer my neighbor was giving away for free not much more.

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That is so sad. It shouldn't be, but that's just how it is here in the U.S., Inc. these days for far too many people. You'd think we live in a 3rd world country, wouldn't you? I remember when things were different just a few decades ago. I've watched things go downhill and it seems that now it's accelerating.

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That's just how it is in America. I'm so sorry.

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Yes, the system has to change, giving birth costs a fortune. Your daughter needs to have access to a hospital in case of an emergency. I don't know how safe getting ultrasounds really is. I think the only benefit generally afforded unauthorized migrants is emergency medical care. Refugees are in a different group and receive more benefits. Undocumented immigrants pay taxes, over $30 billion, mostly without benefitting from the programs they help fund. They contribute more than they use from emergency hospital visits. At least that is my understanding, maybe I am wrong.

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From Dan Bongino:

Institutions and organizations smart people don’t trust anymore:

-The media

-the FBI

-the DOJ

-the IRS

-COVID scientists

-medical associations

-scientific associations & journals

-bond rating agencies

-environmental scientists

-woke corporate America

-teacher’s unions…

Feel free to add to this growing list.

I added (HHS which covers CDC, NIH, and FDA)

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7 hrs agoLiked by Robert W Malone MD, MS

Off Topic: Scott Rasmussen's Napolitan News Institute asked 1,000 registered voters this week: "While it is always difficult to wish ill of another human being, would America be better off if Donald Trump had been killed last weekend?"

Overall, 17% of Americans responded "yes," 69% said "no," and the remaining 14% said they were not sure. Among Democrats surveyed, 28% responded "yes."

“It is hard to imagine a greater threat to democracy than expressing a desire to have your political opponent murdered,” Rasmussen said in a statement.

Despite the two attempts on Trump's life, the poll also found that a majority (51%) of Democrats don't think his security detail should be increased.

"Among all voters, 62% think Trump’s security should be increased and 32% disagree," a news release accompanying the poll said.

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I was in the medical field, managing a large medical practice in a community of 100,000 people. Then Obamacare arrived on the scene! After a few years of fighting with the rules and regulations, many good doctors in our community said to hell with it and retired or just left the profession. Many practices combined. Many doctors joined the one large hospital. Patient complaints rose. “Healthcare” plummeted. I retired when I financially could, and left the field. What the government did to this thriving medical community was a travesty!!

Oh, and the influx of illegals, even back then, put such a strain on the community! But they got their free healthcare, you bet they did. I am now in a different state with a like-minded PCP who believed as I did in the alternative care to COVID and I sailed through that crisis. He works with me and has referred me to other like-minded drs when I have a medical issue, of which there have been few, thank goodness. COVID caused me to take an in depth look into the beliefs of RFKjr and I am please Trump has joined forces with him regarding health issues. Now we just need to get Trump elected and perhaps get on the road to MAHA.

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After government bureaucracy, one of our biggest contributors to this problem is the massive corporatization of US medical care. I had gotten out of corporate care with exception of a PCP I have a long relationship with and who I really like. It's tough finding independent specialists, labs, etc. but well worth it. Just this week I'm in the process of leaving my PCP for an independent after a huge hassle over seeking treatment for a simple matter of a UTI. No problem with my doc--but getting through the firewall of idiocy up front was like climbing Everest! Took some searching, but I found a really good doc in an independent practice who has the common sense and the one-on-one approach I expect in a doctor.

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Agree Government should not be involved in health care. Health is a personal responsibility. There is no logic in giving money to a Government so they can make your health choices for you. Forced injection of patented toxic chemical compounds is a prime example. The Federal management of our recent pandemic was a complete failure without exception. Merely guessing with no expertise what measures to take would have produced a better record. The why of that record needs resolution. The reality of that record is Government is the antithesis of health.

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The USA is exceptional in for profit performance, but the systemic problem is worldwide, not just a USA phenomena. The very name "healthcare system" tells the truth. "Healthcare" is a marketing euphemism for "for profit medical care." No one in the "healthcare" system cares about any person's health. If someone is healthy, there are no sales. In addition, the "healthcare" system has no interest in studying healthicine, the arts and sciences of health and healthiness - does not even exist. Our healthcare systems have expensive patented tools and techniques to prevent, diagnose, and treat disease, and pre-disease, but not a single tool or technique to study healthiness of diet, body, mind, spirits, communities or environments. As any doctor's advice "How healthy am I, on a percentage scale?" and the answer will be a blank stare. No ability to measure health is contemplated, much less practiced. It's not profitable. Illness, disease, and sickness are poorly defined, but can still be leveraged for profit. And finally, most important, "cured" is not medically defined and not tracked for most cases of disease, for most actual cures. No doctor, medical clinic (health clinic), hospital (health center), medical system (health system), or medical insurance (health insurance) company tracks cured cases. Why not? Few cures come from medicines. Most cures come from health. Most cures are trivial. Most cures are not profitable. Prevention and treatment with medical products are promoted - prevention, treatments, and cures by improving health and healing are is ignored.

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I think we can all agree to your well-taken points Tracy.

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It seems to me that in the US our trauma and emergency care are pretty good. Our overall performance since the initation of Obamacare, and especially since the Covidcrisis is pretty abysmal. If I'm in a car crash or having a heart attack, I'm there (not much choice anyway). If I have the choice of living right and avoiding a doctor, I'll do that. I just don't trust the system any longer

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What a strange mix of human compassion and active malice seems built into the system. And how distressing it is to wonder which of two faces we'll encounter with our next medical event. I am not inclined to congratulate the UK for its superior care, given the morphine/midazolam scandals, and the health care professionals there who are determined to compel jabs and to remain deaf to pleas from coroners.

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This was compiled by an english source Some bias there maybe?

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Interesting it took weflu to convince those who should have known better that the un-aca was a sick joke played on us by progressives.

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I believe Obamacare was never intended to be a successful health insurance option for citizens. It was always intended to digitize all of our medical records, which it did. From there, the current medical tyranny we are enduring was vastly facilitated. That was always the plan - the medical technocracy all started with the ACA. The gateway to Digital IDs, Vaccine Passports, etc. In that sense, for the tyrants ruling over us, it was a tremendous success.

Reagan also wisely said, in 1961, that the US should never accept socialized medicine because it is the cornerstone of socialism/communism.

Link: https://rumble.com/vchjl1-ronald-reagan-speaks-out-on-socialized-medicine.html

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