Our friends 75 and up. No deaths. No hospitalization. Short period of testing positive. Usually no more than 5 days. The vaccine obviously prevents the disease from being a death threat. The elderly have proven they are in the high risk category.
Our friends 75 and up. No deaths. No hospitalization. Short period of testing positive. Usually no more than 5 days. The vaccine obviously prevents the disease from being a death threat. The elderly have proven they are in the high risk category.
And 2 of my husband's golf buddies, one 75, the other 80, both got covid in November and December of 2020, before the "vaccines." One recovered at home, one had a brief hospital stay. Neither needed oxygen. My unjabbed son had covid and worked from home all day, every day during it. His boss was shocked because his jabbed and boosted wife had covid at the same time and couldn't get out of bed.
We could continue going back and forth on this forever, but the bottom line is the government and media lied. These so-called vaccines are a total failure, and anyone who claims they would have been worse off without it is just lying to themselves, because there's no way to prove that.
Again, the entire point is that we were sold a "safe and effective" vaccine, and even the government's own statistics prove, at the VERY LEAST, that they're not effective.
Thus, why does the narrative continue? And why do people continue to argue that they are?
.... I guess denial is a more comfortable reality for most than conceding they've been betrayed and lied to.
MOST people will not end up in hospital or dead from COVID. That's just a statistical reality.... Especially for healthy people.
The death rate for Americans is less than 1%, and of all the recorded COVID 'deaths' only 6% listed COVID as the sole cause of death.... That is, 94% had 1 or more comorbidities, with an average of 2.5.
In other words, you can't be sure that the vaccine provided protection rather than experiencing a statistically typical scenario for getting COVID.
However for the elderly and those with health issues the reality is that they are at risk. We winter in AZ. Masks were mandatory for a shirt time. No one was as crazy as in other states. All my friends are elderly and Republican. None died. All git the jab. Same with my friends in Britain. Worked for us.
Well if your husband at age 80 had been diagnosed 13 years ago with COPD .breathing at 25%. Still very active. Just put a water heater in for a friend. What would you do? Not smoking related.
I think there's been a miscommunication, Margaret.
I'm not trying to tell you that you made the wrong decision or shouldn't have made the decision you made.
I'm merely trying to inform you with statistical facts that prove, at the very least, that you can't be sure the vaccines provided protection -- especially as there's enough data to prove that they don't.
To suggest your/your friends success with COVID is a result of the proven-ineffective vaccine is just to deny the actual science.
On the bright side: COVID probably isn't as lethal as it's been purported to be, and MOST people will survive.
But, for amusement's sake: my husband has a form of mild COPD (that is, fluid in his lungs) and is also type-2 diabetic. He's not in the BEST of health, but certainly not the worst.... I told him from Day 1 it was his choice and I'd not influence him one way or another.
He chose not to. And I'm secretly glad, because, based on my research and all the data being leaked daily, I'd be more concerned about his health had he taken the shot.
Granted, we are half you and your husband's age.
The data is clear that age is a large factor of post-vaccine health and success.
(Makes more sense for elderly people and less sense the younger one is.)
My argument was only ever that your experience with COVID is not proof of vaccine efficacy, and that it shouldn't be argued in blanket statements as such.
Our friends 75 and up. No deaths. No hospitalization. Short period of testing positive. Usually no more than 5 days. The vaccine obviously prevents the disease from being a death threat. The elderly have proven they are in the high risk category.
And 2 of my husband's golf buddies, one 75, the other 80, both got covid in November and December of 2020, before the "vaccines." One recovered at home, one had a brief hospital stay. Neither needed oxygen. My unjabbed son had covid and worked from home all day, every day during it. His boss was shocked because his jabbed and boosted wife had covid at the same time and couldn't get out of bed.
We could continue going back and forth on this forever, but the bottom line is the government and media lied. These so-called vaccines are a total failure, and anyone who claims they would have been worse off without it is just lying to themselves, because there's no way to prove that.
Exactly.
Again, the entire point is that we were sold a "safe and effective" vaccine, and even the government's own statistics prove, at the VERY LEAST, that they're not effective.
Thus, why does the narrative continue? And why do people continue to argue that they are?
.... I guess denial is a more comfortable reality for most than conceding they've been betrayed and lied to.
MOST people will not end up in hospital or dead from COVID. That's just a statistical reality.... Especially for healthy people.
The death rate for Americans is less than 1%, and of all the recorded COVID 'deaths' only 6% listed COVID as the sole cause of death.... That is, 94% had 1 or more comorbidities, with an average of 2.5.
In other words, you can't be sure that the vaccine provided protection rather than experiencing a statistically typical scenario for getting COVID.
However for the elderly and those with health issues the reality is that they are at risk. We winter in AZ. Masks were mandatory for a shirt time. No one was as crazy as in other states. All my friends are elderly and Republican. None died. All git the jab. Same with my friends in Britain. Worked for us.
Sure, Margaret, but risk does not equal certain death.
If anything, all this proves is that COVID isn't as lethal as it's been purported to be.
Well if your husband at age 80 had been diagnosed 13 years ago with COPD .breathing at 25%. Still very active. Just put a water heater in for a friend. What would you do? Not smoking related.
I think there's been a miscommunication, Margaret.
I'm not trying to tell you that you made the wrong decision or shouldn't have made the decision you made.
I'm merely trying to inform you with statistical facts that prove, at the very least, that you can't be sure the vaccines provided protection -- especially as there's enough data to prove that they don't.
To suggest your/your friends success with COVID is a result of the proven-ineffective vaccine is just to deny the actual science.
On the bright side: COVID probably isn't as lethal as it's been purported to be, and MOST people will survive.
But, for amusement's sake: my husband has a form of mild COPD (that is, fluid in his lungs) and is also type-2 diabetic. He's not in the BEST of health, but certainly not the worst.... I told him from Day 1 it was his choice and I'd not influence him one way or another.
He chose not to. And I'm secretly glad, because, based on my research and all the data being leaked daily, I'd be more concerned about his health had he taken the shot.
Granted, we are half you and your husband's age.
The data is clear that age is a large factor of post-vaccine health and success.
(Makes more sense for elderly people and less sense the younger one is.)
My argument was only ever that your experience with COVID is not proof of vaccine efficacy, and that it shouldn't be argued in blanket statements as such.