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A reader pointed out that I didn't include enough of the results of the "Association of glyphosate exposure with multiple adverse outcomes and potential mediators" paper. And they are right.

My bad (my only excuse was that the trip home was tiring)

I edited the Substack to include the following abstract conclusion from the study:

"The findings of the study revealed that individuals with higher urinary concentrations of GLY had a higher likelihood of having T2DM (type 2 diabetes), hypertension, CVD and obesity (p < 0.001, p = 0.005, p < 0.001 and p = 0.005, respectively). In the reverse-scale Cox regression, a notable association was solely discerned between exposure to GLY and the risk of T2DM (adjusted HR = 1.22, 95% CI: 1.10, 1.36). Consistent outcomes were also obtained via logistic regression analysis, wherein the adjusted OR and 95% CI for T2DM were determined to be 1.30 (1.12, 1.52). Moreover, the present investigation identified serum high-density lipoprotein cholesterol (HDL) as a mediator in this association, with a mediating effect of 7.14% (p = 0.040). This mediating effect was further substantiated by RCS regression, wherein significant dose-response associations were observed between GLY exposure and an increased risk of T2DM (p = 0.002) and reduced levels of HDL (p = 0.001). Collectively, these findings imply an association between GLY exposure and an increased risk of T2DM in the general adult population."

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The science falls on deaf ears at Dept of Agra because the Corporate Farmers are addicted to maximizing their bottom line. Bigger is not better with yield when the nutritional value has been degraded by being grown on dead soil. The fact the trace amounts of glyphosate feed to our children on breakfast cereal along with sugar, corn syrup and dyes does not phase the cereal manufacturers. Zen Honeycutt has been a champion in this area educating moms who will read and listen. www.momsacrossamerica.com. In fact she lives in the Southeast some where not to far from Dr. Malone. She needs everyone's support to wake up our sleeping Congressman in DC. The other issue is taxpayer dollars are helping subsidize these GMO crops with trace toxins that harm! Only in America!

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This IS one of the things Kennedy promises to tackle once Trump wins!!

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Today, I received a detailed message from Zen Honeycutt that Congress Booker is introducing a bill called Safe School Meals Act with the intent to eliminate detrimental ingredients that impact the health of our children. RFK Jr has expressed this time and again. "60% of our children have health issues" . Big Chemo and Big Food will lobby for having the bill watered down. Big Medicine will remain silent on the issue. Doesn't grow the corporate medicine business if the citizens are healthy. Thank you Zen and Moms across America that are supporting this bill. We need a ground swell of voices getting the attention of all congressman. Many will succumb to their political pocketbook. Read Zen's announcement here!

https://www.momsacrossamerica.com/september_letter_from_the_director?utm_campaign=september_letter&utm_medium=email&utm_source=yesmaam

Many years ago, the President of the Keebler Cookie Company bragged to me that they made the best belly fillers in the world. I ask what that means? Answer: They look good, taste good and have NO nutritional value! Yep! That's been the mantra of Big Food since WWII!

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Dr Braun, I am with you!! Nicole Shannahan is also vocal about this travesty. However, as our political establishment stands, all bills will be corrupted by special interests. We need to irrevocably break the back of lobbying. Bobby Kennedy has a plan. I’m praying that we live to see it fulfilled. (I mean that! Every hour gets a five minute prayer to God Almighty for this issue). I also think, though nearly no one agrees, that citizen taxpayers need a way to influence their legislatures thru greater control over how their tax dollars are (mis) spent. I suggest letting us assign our money at tax time to a long list of government agencies and proposed bills. Yes you can use my money et for that or no you can’t. I suggest that swelling and shrinking budgets would have a whiplash corrective effect on all government agencies and send a clearer message to politicians who only listen to those who fund them.

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Great plan! Special interest lobbyists and our congressman will not want to give up their power. I hope Booker's Bill is not just a ploy to take away RFK Jr. thunder and hard work championing children's health.

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Exactly. Let RFK go in for the kill. Meaning, no more pandering/working with. This beast must be slain. And Republicans (and it goes without saying Democrats) have shown themselves to be cowards and immoral creeps except for a mighty few: Massey, Getz, MTG, Paul and more but most are wedded to the corporate and wealthy when they should be listening ONLY to us.

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Today Vani testified before a Congressional committee hosted by Don Johnson, one of the only congressman that has the courage to expose the deep state that is ruining the American experiment. Her testimony is focused and accurate an it is time that our Congressman support the changes that are required to make our children healthy again. I love you Vani! https://foodbabe.com/american-food-companies-must-stop-doing-this-now-testimony-washington-d-c-senate-roundtable/

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Thanks Robert - this was very helpful.

I just found a Glyphosate test referred by David Perlmutter that anyone can order (they make it look like you need an MD but you don't) - for anyone who wants to order a test, you can do so here: https://mosaicdx.com/test/glyphosate-test/

The key of course is for all of us to detox.

This youtube hits several good points for detoxing glyphosate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TYTsQbahME0

(But I would add red light sauna + detox baths to the regimen which detoxes most toxins faster and easier than most everything else)

My husband and I follow what you and Jill do. We eat only whole organic foods and make our own meals from scratch ...and buy from farmers directly that are organic and raise grain-free beef/chicken (no big box stores)...yes we eat out occasionally too. My husband now buys wheatberries direct from the farmer and mills our flour and makes the bread from scratch ensuring ZERO Glyphosate/GMOs Bromide, etc. For dessert, we buy raw milk/cream from a local farmer and make our own ice cream.

Unfortunately, every time we travel, we all are getting pummeled with:

(1) heavy doses of radiation from the flight

(2) GMO/GLY in many of the foods we are forced to eat out, and

(3) parasites/bacteria/fungi/viruses from virtually everywhere.

Unfortunately, it's not as healthy to travel as it used to be.

When I have to travel (about 4-5 times per year), I take the following with me:

(1) 25 mg Iodine along with 200 mcg selenium daily (neutralizes the radiation),

(2) Anti-parasite/anti-bacterial (Oregano oil, grapefruit seed extract, Wormwood/black walnut

(3) Dr. Schulze Superfoods powder (highest non-synthetic source of B vitamins I've seen) along with collagen powder which I mix into morning juice to ensure high nutrition

(4) D3K2 (in MCT oil)

(5) NAC, Quercetin, Nano Soma, Zeolite (for anti-viral)

(6) Progesterone (by Health Natura) which men/women both need (ref Giorgi Dinkov/Mercola) plus GABA, Magnesium - all taken before bed to ensure excellent sleep.

(7) Probiotic

There are other things I can take but I try to make it as low-maintenance as I can (remember to wrap all your supplements in aluminum foil as many will be negatively impacted when they are scanned. )

Before I did this regimen, I used to come home feeling wiped out and have to do a 1-2 week cleanse/detox to try to get myself back to normal. A friend of mine (who thinks I'm very high maintenance because of my regimen - LOL) ...just went on a high-end cruise and visited Italy/Greece/Croatia and came back with the flu, parasite infection, and ear infection. That was 3 weeks ago and she is still struggling to feel better. ...I would rather be high maintenance :)

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Addendum (Progesterone - depleted for most by age 55 and many younger than 55 also need it...it's a cortisol antagonist and can help with estrogen dominance which is a problem for almost all adults today due to the endocrine disrupting microplastics which are in just about every food item that comes out of a box or a can.

Giorgi Dinkov is an independent researcher with his own labs and has come up with endocrine balancing solutions that are so contrary that his solutions are the exact reverse of 'mainstream Western Medicine model' for maintaining endocrine health 40 and over.

His research results are counter to what NIH, CDC, et al promote, it's truly mind numbing...SSRIs, HRT...Do we need to re-thing these? Check out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SN2jwpTuGo

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"I just found a Glyphosate test referred by David Perlmutter that anyone can order (they make it look like you need an MD but you don't) - for anyone who wants to order a test, you can do so here: https://mosaicdx.com/test/glyphosate-test/"

The boxes I clicked led me to having to give a card # and so I stopped. Can you tell me what one single test costs - for me? I might plug in a card # if the price is reasonable.

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David, please post the cost if you do find out. Thanks

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Sep 21Liked by Robert W Malone MD, MS

About 25 years ago now... I was so far over on the plant based diet side that my son made me a bowl with the words "Rice and Beans Again??" I had sworn off beef after learning about the slaughterhouse industry!! And then I learned about gluten and grass-fed beef!!! I quit all "bread" products!! It was a struggle for a while as they would "call" to me!!! Nowadays, I don't even see them as food!! I am always stunned by how much space in the "grocery" stores is devoted to starches, sugars and fake sugars!!! 90% of my shopping is done around the perimeter of the store!!

Then one day I kind of "accidentally" began eating almost only grass-fed ground beef and found my energy and thinking ability increasing!!!

Today I am almost entirely "carnivore" by default!!! The veggies I used to eat tons of... now cause me digestive distress and "run" right through my "sewer system" into the man-made sewer system!! I suspect that may be because "everything" (even organic) is contaminated with destructive chemicals in the "food," water and air!!

After completing my 80th trip around the sun in June, I still do my own car/building repairs, lawn mowing, etc. I'm getting back into weight lifting, my sleep is getting better and better and no one is able to guess my correct age!!! I also take some supplements and... zero!!... pharmaceutical poisons!!!

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A friend at our gym is now 85 but you would never guess it. He works out with weights in a reasonable way and goes 3 times per week. Slim, fit, and in great health.

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WRE, Don’t overdo on the weights! My 89 yo husband has some real back problems which I wonder if he may have ovredone in the last. He did back off a few years ago. Now he can’t.

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Thanks, Margaret...

Back problems are almost always the result of improper lifting methods!! I screwed up my back years ago doing bent-over rowing!! NO ONE could stop the pain that developed!! One time after getting radiant heat treatments (that didn't help) ... as I lifted my foot to step into my car... I felt my back (around the belt line) pop!! I thought... how come NO ONE told me my spine was out of place!! Apparently the heat had relaxed the muscles enough to allow the vertebrae to realign!! I then started going to a chiropractor with very limited improvement in the pain!! One day sitting on the floor doing twisting and stretching, I hit on a particular "stretch" that instantly relieved 90% of the discomfort!! I continued that and variations of it with continued improvement!! I told the chiropractor what I was doing and he said, "Keep doing it ... you don't need me anymore!!" Get him to a "good" chiropractor ... not just a manipulator... rather someone who truly understands how all those connections work!!!

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Thanks for all the good ideas!! He would take the ice cream first!!! It has been one more ride. Add dementia to the trip! Now he has a femoral popliteal clot. No jabs. Just Covid in July 2021. I think the delta variant. We both had but he came out with the worst side effects ! What a worker for his age before this happened. His sense of humor sees us through.

All that being said, the clot is our focus for now. The rest falls in line with what I believe he needs. Trying to have the right balance in a world upside down. God is our refuge through all of this. What a friend in Jesus.

I just wanted to warn about what I observed at our gym. I’m afraid it can be overkill with weights. Moderation!

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Look up Dr. Bryan Ardis!!! He is a brilliant researcher!! There are(!!) remedies for those problems... starting with all the things the FDA has demonized!!! If I try to list them here I'll just sound like a nut case !! Dr. Ardis has all the backup evidence that will make it make sense!!! Search his site thedrardisshow.com he has tons of free information!! You will be stunned!! One hint to start you off... the clots come from the "spike proteins" and Nattokinase breaks down those proteins!!

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AMD told me having Covid could cause the clot as well as the jabs that we did not take. What

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Oops! What blew my mind our PCP doesn’t plan another Doppler study to see if the expensive Eliquis worked taking for 6 months! What does that say?

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I found just that kind of chiropractor, she is a "well being chiropractor", spends the time to explain stretches and movement. She also introduced me to the vibration plate machine, which I own and use daily. A good chiropractor will set up a 15 minute once a month maintenance program for a pain free life, that is great .

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Those (if you get a good one) vibrators are awesome!!! I went looking for one when a newsletter doctor I respect touted them and offered one for a ridiculous $2500!! I found one called "Sunny Health and Fitness" for less than $100 (that was several years ago and it's still operational)!! The first time I used it, I was experiencing heart "palpitations"!! They vanished within the first 30 seconds on the machine!!

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You may end up being the only human being left in the universe when everyone else is a walking chemical factory. It Ould get lonely. Maybe you should have a big bowl of ice cream.

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LOL!!! Ice cream is also a "non-starter"!! I'll commune with the cats and cows!!

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Go see a good DO = Osteopath.

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62 here. Zero meds, just supplements. I've got 60 lbs to loose though. This article was awesome!

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Nice, you sound like my father.

Don't forget BISON! We have a lot of small bison ranches around here (Austin, TX) and we love it. We buy a half to get one of everything and they are big animals. All are "grass fed" in that they suppliment with a grass blended pellets. There is not enough grassland around here to support them. Bison are very different from cattle since they are not domesticated so the whole process is much more hands off with a wild animal. So impossible to feedlot with a forced diet like cattle. They couldn't do what they do with cattle cause they would suffer and so not profitable. The last one we got developed a hoof condition and we got him at $1.80/lb hanging weight cause they wanted him gone. We get all the organs, suet, cheek meat, tounge, ox tail, etc. First thing we eat is the tounge, my wife loves it.

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LOL - I know the organs are good for us...but i just can't stand to look at the tongue & imagine eating it!

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Doc, I totally agree and owe a lot to my father in law. Art, who has been gone for a number of years. His body was good for a lot more, but at 92 his doctor discovered a heart defect that got him before it could be corrected. He had been a serious physical education student in terms of clean eating and exercise long before it was recognized. His oldest daughter takes after him and has been known to read the labels on foods and have me return them if I missed something. We are also lucky to have the local CSA farm a couple of miles up the road. It has a new owner, a California chef, who is still learning both to farm and to be a West Virginian this year, so we have gotten a few weird vegetables, but the owner is beginning to fit in and on balance our half share has been a good use of the money.

The Glychosphate issue is truly disgusting. My wife used to think she has a gluten allergy until one day when India still strictly forbade it’s use to do the final ripening of wheat we ate at an Indian Restaurant (Truck Stop) along I-70 in western Ohio. Waiting for the restroom I was standing near a big pile of imported sacks of Indian Flour that was obviously the supply for the entire restaurant. She loves nan and decided to eat some anyway. To our surprise she had no problems with the nan. I later read that India, at least then, didn’t allow the final ripening of wheat with Glychosphate, so we strongly suspect that is her allergy and not gluten.

Glychosphate is used in a disgusting process used in both the US and Canada to save ripening time at the expense of customer health. If it hasn’t already been made clear the Roundup you use to kill weeds in your driveway is a good part Glychosphate!

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Glyphosate-based herbicides are numerous. There are many hundreds of them for sale in the world market. I asked Brave AI, Are glyphosate-based herbicides used to dry-down crops? It replied, "Glyphosate Use in Crop Drying

According to the search results, glyphosate is used for pre-harvest crop desiccation, also known as drying-down crops. This practice involves applying the herbicide to a standing crop towards the end of the growing season to expedite the natural process of crop drying. The goal is to reduce the time and labor required for manual drying, making it easier for farmers to harvest.

While glyphosate is primarily known as a weed killer, its ability to disrupt plant growth and ripen specific crops makes it suitable for desiccation purposes. The search results highlight the use of glyphosate for drying-down various crops, including wheat, oats, edible beans, and others.

It’s essential to note that glyphosate is not the only herbicide used for desiccation. Other contact herbicides, such as diquat, are also commonly used for this purpose. However, glyphosate remains a widely used and prominent option for pre-harvest crop desiccation.

Key points:

Glyphosate-based herbicides are used for pre-harvest crop desiccation (drying-down crops)

This practice involves applying glyphosate to a standing crop towards the end of the growing season

Glyphosate disrupts plant growth and ripening, making it suitable for desiccation purposes

Other contact herbicides, like diquat, are also used for desiccation, but glyphosate is a widely used option."

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Um, I wouldn't be using Roundup - to kill weeds in my driveway or anywhere else. Poisons self and surroundings.

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Sep 21Liked by Robert W Malone MD, MS

I just finished spraying glyphosate on ten acres of heavy sod. It will be plowed down in a week and left to rot down and be prepared for potatoes in the spring. It works fantastically well, and eliminates or curtails the usage of other, more dangerous (to the crop) herbicide weed killers in the crop next year. Within two weeks, soil microbes will have destroyed any evidence of the chemical in the soil.

that being said, I'm more concerned with the genetic modification process of Roundup Ready crops than the actual Roundup. It's applied long before any portion of the plant has developed the food or feed portion such as the grain head.

NOW.... using glyphosate as a desiccant........ I had an argument with someone about using Roundup as a desiccant for grains to be used for food. I just didn't believe that the FDA would OK that process. I argued that it may have been labeled for seed crops, but surely not for food. Turns out I was wrong.

I believe your concern for this practice is warranted, and not just for Roundup. In researching other descants, it turns out that others are being used on the actual food part of the plant as well. Diquot, a non=selective weed killer used extensively to desiccate the above ground plant of the potato in order to promote skin-set that protects the tubers from bruising and disease introduction is also being used on food grains along with its cousin Paraquat. Common sense tells me that there are unhealthy levels of residue in those grains. Before Covid, I probably wouldn.t question the FDA's approval. Now, however, I question EVERYTHING my government tells me. It's quite obvious that regulatory capture is swaying FDA/Big Chemical interactions that are not in the best safety interests of the folks they are supposed to be protecting.

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I asked Brave AI, What happens when Roundup herbicide degrades in the soil? AI replied, "Roundup Degradation in Soil

Based on the provided search results, here’s a summary of what happens when Roundup herbicide (glyphosate) degrades in the soil:

Microbial-mediated degradation: Glyphosate degrades primarily through microbial-mediated degradation or biodegradation, which occurs at a relatively rapid rate in most soils. The half-life of glyphosate in soil is estimated to be between 7 and 60 days.

Adsorption and desorption: The extent and rate of glyphosate biodegradation are influenced by processes such as adsorption and desorption in soil, as well as other chemical, physical, and biological factors.

Aerobic and anaerobic conditions: Both aerobic and anaerobic conditions favor glyphosate degradation, although anaerobic degradation is generally slower than aerobic degradation.

Soil temperature: Soil temperature can also play a role in determining glyphosate degradation rates.

Cometabolic involvement: Glyphosate appears to be biodegraded cometabolically, meaning microorganisms are not able to utilize it as a source of carbon. Instead, microorganisms degrade glyphosate as a byproduct of their normal metabolic processes.

Mineralization: The mineralization of glyphosate, or its conversion to carbon dioxide and water, is influenced by factors such as the abundance of certain microorganisms, like Pseudomonas spp., and the presence of phosphate in the soil.

It’s essential to note that while glyphosate degrades in soil, its persistence and movement can still pose environmental concerns, including the potential for groundwater and surface water contamination. Additionally, repeated applications of glyphosate may affect soil microorganisms and ecosystem functioning over time." I asked a question about Roundup's breakdown product in the soil, regarding adverse affects on life. AI replied, "According to the search results, Roundup herbicide’s breakdown product in the soil is glyphosate. Glyphosate has been shown to have adverse effects on various aspects of life, including:

Soil health: Glyphosate can alter soil microbiology, reducing beneficial microbial populations and affecting soil fertility (Torretta et al., 2013; Nicolas et al., 2017).

Plant growth: Glyphosate can inhibit plant growth and development, particularly in non-target species (e.g., beneficial insects, pollinators) (Nicolas et al., 2017).

Animal health: Exposure to glyphosate has been linked to adverse effects on farm animal health, including changes in gut microbiota and immune system function (Torretta et al., 2013).

Human health: There is ongoing debate and controversy surrounding the potential human health risks associated with glyphosate exposure, including cancer and non-cancerous health effects (e.g., endocrine disruption, neurotoxicity) (IARC, 2015; EPA, 2017).

Some specific examples of adverse effects on life from glyphosate breakdown in soil include:

Soil filamentous fungus Aspergillus nidulans: Exposure to Roundup (R450) formulation at a dilution of 1% of agricultural use levels showed adverse effects on growth, cellular polarity, endocytosis, and mitochondria function (Nicolas et al., 2017).

Soil organisms: The Soil Association has reported that glyphosate can harm soil organisms, including beneficial insects and microorganisms, and alter soil structure and fertility (Soil Association, 2020).

It is essential to note that the effects of glyphosate breakdown in soil can vary depending on factors such as concentration, formulation, and environmental conditions. Further research is needed to fully understand the impacts of glyphosate on soil and life.

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Thanks for researching/posting that info. Makes total sense. Glyphosate products should not be used at all.

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Wow, an interesting post, thanks.

Our neighboring farms across the river spray all their potatoes for desicating in late summer; I assume they use Diquot as you imply. So, is that a concern for use when we eat their potatoes or should I start planting my own?! It seems that as its use is to dessicate the leaves it may not reach the tubers themselves?

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This process and chemical has been used for at least 5 decades. The desiccant is a contact killer whereas glyphosate is absorbed by the leaves and "trans-locates" to the roots where it does it's job killing the entire plant. Monsanto had a research lab near here testing a number of transgenic procedures. The potatoes they developed had the potential to drastically reduce insecticide usage by producing a very benign chemical in the leaves to kill Colorado Potato Beetles. The same chemical, BTW that the organic growers still spray on their potatoes today. They made the plants to produce this compound because in order for it to work, it has to be applied about every three days. An impossible task if you are growing 1500 acres. Anti-GMO activists did their dirty work and McCain Foods, one of the largest food processors in the world folded, refusing to buy any genetically modified potatoes for french frys and Monsanto abandoned the lines. Anyway, when they tried to make Roundup ready potatoes, they found that the tubers always rotted in storage when treated with glyphosate.at desiccation.

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OK, thanks again Patriot. more questions / points.

So, Diquot the dessicant, should be fine for potatoes as it is a contact killer(leaves) and should not be expected to run down to the potatoes. . . is what I am hearing.

-- We have grown our own but lots of potato beetles are a pain; it may be worth it if I knew the name of the "benign" chemical so I could do as the "organic" farmers do. . . ?? suggestions on that name?

-- Glyphosate must not be the chemical in use as it causes storage rot. .

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Dipel, and Thuricide are two products that have Bacillus Thuringiensis (BT) as an active ingredient. Both products are available on Ebay and Amazon. Apply when the larvae are feeding ravenously, usually on hot days. The adult beetles don't eat or eat very little. Watch the underside of the leaves for the egg masses and start application then, BT will have to be re-applied after it rains, and usually about every three days.

Depending on how many potatoes you have, mechanical haulm removal works nearly as well as chemical. A weed whacker that will cut the stalk off near ground level works and a propane burner applied to the plants a couple times also works well. They only need to be exposed to the heat, not burned to a crisp as too much heat will damage the tubers near the surface.

BTW, Monsanto tried making a Roundup ready potato and that was when they discovered that the tubers would not keep.

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Excellent and thanks.

Wife tells me diatomaceous earth particles suspended in water, sprayed works against potato beetles but she has not tried it since did not plant taters this year. . . hmmm.

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DA could work but the trick is to get every bug to eat it.

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I asked Brave AI, Is Diquat harmful to mammals? AI replied, "Diquat's Mammalian Toxicity

Based on the provided search results, Diquat is harmful to mammals. Here’s a summary of the findings:

Diquat is a redox cycling agent that can produce reactive oxygen and nitrogen species, leading to oxidative stress, damage to cellular macromolecules, and cell death (Encyclopedia of Toxicology, 2024).

Acute exposure to Diquat can cause irritation of skin or mucous membranes, and severe gastroenteritis, followed by acute renal failure (Encyclopedia of Toxicology, 2024).

There is no antidote against Diquat intoxications (Encyclopedia of Toxicology, 2024).

Diquat binds strongly to soil and degrades rapidly, but its toxicity to mammals is still a concern. Cows, in particular, appear to be sensitive to Diquat, with an oral LD50 of 30-56 mg/kg (EXTOXNET PIP - DIQUAT DIBROMIDE).

In vivo and in vitro studies have shown that Diquat-induced oxidative stress can damage the intestinal epithelial barrier, impair mitochondrial function, and trigger mitophagy in piglets (Diquat-induced oxidative stress increases intestinal permeability, impairs mitochondrial function, and triggers mitophagy in piglets - PMC).

Human cases of Diquat poisoning have been reported, mainly due to intentional ingestion of the liquid formulations, and can result in severe clinical manifestations, including gastrointestinal symptoms and renal failure (Human and experimental toxicology of diquat poisoning: Toxicokinetics, mechanisms of toxicity, clinical features, and treatment - PubMed).

In conclusion, the available evidence suggests that Diquat is harmful to mammals, causing a range of toxic effects, including gastrointestinal and renal damage, oxidative stress, and mitochondrial dysfunction. Its toxicity is particularly concerning for certain animal species, such as cows, and its potential for human poisoning highlights the need for caution and proper handling of this herbicide." Well, yes, as there's no antidote.

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What is the response from AI when asked "What is the toxicity of the process of starvation on a global level due to not having access to pesticides?"

Everything one does has risks. Even when eating, one can choke on a genetically modified taco and drop dead.

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AI is limited by the info given to it. There are many AIs, but none of them yet are directly connected to the internet to learn from all info there available, which is far more than the relatively small database the AI creators provided. That's the reason for each AI's bias. Instead of AI's reply, I offer here a clean link to the people who were most informative in my early education on Organically grown or raised, starting for me about 60 years ago.

https://rodaleinstitute.org/blog/can-organic-feed-the-world/

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I venice.ai because I have a paid subscription. I requested AI to work, as follows: Please deconstruct the propaganda that American farmers can't feed the world without toxic pesticides. Venice.ai replied, Venice

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American farmers are often portrayed as being unable to feed the world without relying on toxic pesticides. This narrative is largely a product of corporate agribusiness propaganda designed to protect the interests of chemical companies and their shareholders.

The reality is that many small-scale farmers around the world have been successfully growing crops without the use of toxic synthetic pesticides for decades, if not centuries. Techniques such as crop rotation, intercropping, natural pest management, and the use of natural pest repellents and fertilizers have been proven effective in many regions.

Furthermore, the widespread use of synthetic pesticides has been linked to numerous health and environmental problems. Pesticide exposure has been associated with an increased risk of various diseases, including cancer, Parkinson's disease, and neurodevelopmental disorders. Pesticides also pollute air, water, and soil, causing harm to wildlife and ecosystems.

Moreover, the claim that American farmers cannot feed the world without pesticides is a red herring. The world does not need American farmers to produce all of its food. Small-scale farmers in developing countries can and do produce a significant portion of the world's food using sustainable methods. The problem is not a lack of food production, but rather issues related to poverty, inequality, and the concentration of resources in the hands of a few.

In summary, the argument that American farmers need toxic pesticides to feed the world is a misleading and self-serving narrative perpetuated by the agribusiness industry. Small-scale farmers around the world have proven that it is possible to grow crops sustainably without relying on synthetic chemicals." I like venice.ai because I've had success teaching it some facts about Natto, a fermented legume product, usually with small soybeans. I next asked venice.ai to elaborate. It replied, "Certainly. The argument that American farmers need toxic pesticides to feed the world is a misleading narrative perpetuated by the agribusiness industry. There are several reasons for this:

Corporate Interests: Large agribusiness companies, such as Monsanto, Bayer, and Syngenta, have a vested interest in promoting the use of their chemical products. These companies have spent millions of dollars on lobbying and advertising campaigns to convince the public that their pesticides are necessary for food production.

Market Control: By promoting the idea that farmers cannot feed the world without pesticides, these companies can maintain their dominance in the market. If farmers were to adopt sustainable practices that didn't require chemical inputs, it would reduce the demand for these companies' products and threaten their profits.

Lack of Education: Many consumers and policymakers are unaware of the alternatives to synthetic pesticides. They may believe that the only way to produce enough food is through the use of chemicals. This lack of knowledge makes it easier for the agribusiness industry to promote their narrative without being challenged.

In contrast, there are numerous examples of small-scale farmers around the world who have successfully grown crops without relying on synthetic pesticides. Some of these methods include:

Crop Rotation: By rotating crops each year, farmers can reduce pest pressure and improve soil health, without the need for chemical inputs.

Intercropping: Planting different crops together can help to deter pests and improve soil fertility, without the need for synthetic pesticides.

Natural Pest Management: Many farmers use natural pest repellents, such as neem oil or garlic spray, to control pests without harming beneficial insects or the environment.

Organic Farming: Farmers can use natural fertilizers, such as compost or manure, to improve soil fertility and produce healthy crops without relying on synthetic chemicals.

Agroforestry: Integrating trees and shrubs into crop systems can help to improve soil health, reduce erosion, and provide habitat for beneficial insects and other organisms that help to control pests.

These sustainable farming practices have been used successfully for generations in many parts of the world, including the United States. However, the agribusiness industry has worked to suppress this knowledge and promote their narrative that farmers cannot feed the world without toxic pesticides." Venice AI has an elaborate feature button, which I used. AI responded, "Certainly. There are several reasons why the agribusiness industry has worked to suppress knowledge about sustainable farming practices:

Economic Interests: The agribusiness industry is a multi-billion dollar industry with a vested interest in maintaining the status quo. By promoting the idea that farmers cannot feed the world without pesticides, they can continue to sell their chemical products and maintain their market dominance.

Monoculture: The agribusiness industry relies heavily on monoculture farming, which involves growing a single crop over a large area. This practice is more cost-effective and profitable for the industry, but it is also more vulnerable to pests and diseases. By promoting the use of synthetic pesticides, the industry can protect its profits and maintain its monoculture farming practices.

Intellectual Property: Many of the sustainable farming practices that have been used for generations are considered "common knowledge" and are not protected by patents or intellectual property rights. This means that farmers and researchers are free to share and adapt these practices without fear of legal repercussions. However, the agribusiness industry has worked to patent and control many of these practices, making them less accessible to farmers who want to adopt sustainable methods.

Lack of Research Funding: The majority of agricultural research funding is directed towards developing new synthetic chemicals and genetically modified crops, rather than sustainable farming practices. This creates a bias in the scientific literature and limits the availability of research on sustainable methods.

Influence over Policy: The agribusiness industry has significant influence over government policies related to agriculture and food production. This influence can lead to policies that favor the industry's interests, such as promoting the use of synthetic pesticides and restricting access to sustainable farming practices.

Disinformation Campaigns: The agribusiness industry has been known to engage in disinformation campaigns to discredit sustainable farming practices and promote their narrative that farmers cannot feed the world without toxic pesticides. This can involve spreading misinformation, funding pseudo-science research, and lobbying for policies that favor the industry's interests.

In conclusion, the agribusiness industry has worked to suppress knowledge about sustainable farming practices for economic, political, and ideological reasons. This has led to a situation where farmers are often unaware of the alternatives to synthetic pesticides and are pressured by the industry to continue using toxic chemicals in order to feed the world." I have posted enough for now. Anyone can use Venice.ai for free as a guest, but guests are limited in daily requests, as compared to the PRO paid sub. Here's a clean link: https://venice.ai/chat

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Well, OK but when was the last time someone took a slug of Diquat?!

The AI response you got applies to INGESTION not topical application to potato plant leaves with no migration to the tubers, eventually eaten by humans.

Ya' gotta watch how you use your little AI bot.

Garbage IN, Garbage OUT!

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Where does that diquat eventually go? It doesn't simply disappear. Where do all those sprayed potato plants go? No farmer carefully collects the plants for disposal in a hazardous waste site. Even if he did, any spray has a quantity that ends up on the ground, not the plant. Please think about the consequences. Thank you.

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"Based on the provided search results, the breakdown products of glyphosate can have varying effects on life. Toxic effects on nervous system: Studies have shown that exposure to glyphosate, including its breakdown products, can reduce cell viability and cause neuronal death in rodents, potentially harming the nervous system (Toxic Effects of Glyphosate on the Nervous System: A Systematic Review).

Toxic effects on soil microorganisms: Glyphosate can be toxic to soil microorganisms, which play a crucial role in degrading it. This can disrupt soil ecosystems and potentially impact soil fertility and overall ecosystem health (Glyphosate: Its Environmental Persistence and Impact on Crop Health and Nutrition).

Persistence in soil and water: The breakdown products of glyphosate, such as AMPA (aminomethylphosphonic acid), can persist in soil and water for extended periods, ranging from days to years, depending on environmental factors like soil type and climate (Glyphosate General Fact Sheet, Glyphosate: Its Environmental Persistence and Impact on Crop Health and Nutrition). This prolonged presence can lead to cumulative exposure and potential harm to non-target organisms.

Impact on aquatic life: The presence of POEA (polyoxyethylene amine), a surfactant commonly used in glyphosate formulations, can increase toxicity to aquatic organisms. This highlights the importance of considering the formulation and its breakdown products when assessing the environmental impact of glyphosate (Glyphosate).

Overall assessment: While the primary breakdown product of glyphosate, AMPA, is generally considered less toxic than glyphosate itself, its persistence in the environment and potential impact on soil microorganisms and aquatic life suggest that it can still pose harm to life. Additionally, the presence of other breakdown products and formulation components can further complicate the environmental toxicity assessment.

In summary, the breakdown products of glyphosate can have adverse effects on life, including the nervous system, soil microorganisms, and aquatic organisms, highlighting the need for continued research and monitoring of its environmental impact." That's Brave AI's reply to a question, Are the breakdown products of glyphosate harmful to life?

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Bacillus thuringiensis (Bt) is a naturally occurring, soil-dwelling bacterium that produces a protein-based toxin. This toxin is toxic to certain insect larvae, such as caterpillars, and is used as a biological control method to manage insect pests. Bt has been used safely for over 30 years in the United States, Canada, and other countries to control insects in agriculture, forestry, and public health.

Is Bt harmful to life?

According to the search results, Bt is considered safe for humans and most non-target organisms. The toxin mechanism is specific to insect larvae and does not affect humans or other mammals. However, there are some concerns and complexities:

Some studies suggest a possible correlation between exposure to Bt pollen and compromised immunity to Nosema, a parasite affecting honeybees.

The beta-exotoxin produced by some Bt isolates has been shown to be toxic to humans and other forms of life, and its presence is prohibited in Bt products.

Combinatorial effects between plant components and other factors might enhance toxicity, particularly in genetically engineered plants expressing Bt toxins.

The European Food Safety Authority (EFSA) has raised concerns about the potential health risks associated with Bt toxins present in genetically engineered plants and residues left from spraying with complementary herbicides.

In summary, while Bt is generally considered safe for humans and most non-target organisms, there are some potential risks and uncertainties, particularly in the context of genetically engineered plants and residues. It is essential to continue monitoring and assessing the potential impacts of Bt on human health and the environment.

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I would not eat potatoes grown like that. Maybe time to grow your own?

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Wow

I wonder what is being done to crops like cotton that are not directly eaten. What a freak of nature that one's got to be.

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As usual, great information to digest and pass along to those that still want to know.

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Sep 21Liked by Robert W Malone MD, MS

Great article. I’m a make things from scratch farm girl. There is so much processed food in the stores . The kids love it. I never bought it. Pizza pockets, taquitoes, burritos etc.My neighbor fed her kids processed food and they were always getting sick.

My grandson and his exchange student from Chile are playing soccer and having 2 hour practice everyday. Such great exercise. I was always grateful for soccer. All my kids played soccer except my oldest daughter and she took dance classes. Sports keep kids off of their phones, computers , TVs etc. I live in an area where kids can ride bikes , there is a bike trail about a mile from my house. My sons like to ride their bikes. My grandson doesn’t do outside exercise and her stamina is terrible. What to do.

Now for my confession. I live a block from the high school. All of my six children would come home at lunchtime and bring friends. My grandkids that go to the school would bring over friends. This year I have a grandson and the foreign exchange student ( he is awesome) and my granddaughter comes over for lunch. They bring their friends. We have anywhere from 9 - 14 kids everyday coming over to our house at lunchtime. Some bring lunch and some don’t. The high school caught fire about 1 1/2 years ago. There is no lunch room . They have a make shift lunch room in the foyer. Not a lot of room.

Now my dilemma is what to feed these hungry kids. Most of them are 14 year old boys which even if they bring a lunch they are still hungry.

Now for the confession part. I need something fast. I have been buying pizza pockets and taquitoes and burritos. They are fast toward up but I am filling guilty. Now my daughter is chipping in on the food as that is a lot of kids to fed. Any suggestions? I never fed my children this garbage and here I am. Taco soup , beef stew etc. You have to know that my kids are spaced 26 years apart and I had my own children in school for 39 consecutive years. I’m tired of cooking big meals. I’m still having a hard time cooking for two. But 14 kids is a lot. Help.

My mom had non- Hodgkin’s lymphoma. She used a lot of round-up in her large yard.

Things need to change. I think if we can get Trump and Vance along with RFK jr. we can make progress.

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How about getting the kids involved in growing their own lunches, at least? What about the preparation, serving and cleanup? All their energy could be better spent helping you and themselves in daily learning with you. Be a leader.

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Growing season is coming to an end. They half an hour for lunch. That includes coming to my home and go back to school. If I have leftovers they eat them up.

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I have to say the kids are great kids. Very polite, clean up after themselves , say thank you and call me Grandma. Occasionally we make cookies. You have to know I love children.

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Hey Melanie you're a great Mom & Grandma! Wow, amazed at what you do for these kids-- 14?! Whoa.

as to Round up. . . Heck, I still use it about 2x a summer to kill various weeds that just can't be stopped otherwise, but that is not a health concern as it never goes on garden stuff, just the weeds. . .

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None of the certified organic farmers I know ever use any synthetic herbicides such as Roundup. Remember, there's always drift through all possible routes, including but not limited to water (underground, surface and even in the air), dust, and movement of contaminated weeds, just for starters.

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This is not a health concern? The residue goes into the soil, water and air. This is a health concern all the way around. Don't let your rational mind win on the health concern front. This is serious!

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But it still goes in the soil. Oh well, can't win 'em all.

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Don't give up, every little piece matters.

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So glad you both are doing so well! And you BOTH look great! Food is medicine and how we eat definitely matters! We act accordingly! 💗

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Sep 21Liked by Robert W Malone MD, MS

May I recommend an online search for organic. non-GMO flour near you. From that you should be able to locate bakeries and bulk flour.

Because glyphosate is a disaster in our gut, many people decide that they are gluten intolerant and search for gluten free everything instead of glyphosate free food. Avoid conventional baked goods and if enough of us do that a market of GMO free products may appear.

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AZURE!

The latest in our quest. We have a drop point 10 miles from home.

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As people become accustomed to ever-increasing concentrations of glyphosate in their daily diets, we may surmise the endgame: Roundup-Ready humans.

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Just because it's logical doesn't mean it's desirable. Just because someone can do it doesn't mean it should occur.

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Ironic in that as you flew out of San Antonio you may have flown over my wife spraying a particularly nasty, thorny vine with glyphosate

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Neither of you plan on eating though.

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OH MY!

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We cannot grow food. Virtually no soil and now stage 4 water restrictions not allowing gardens

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That’s really awful! I live in a condo with very little sun. The heavy trade winds also make it almost impossible to grow anything I currently have one avocado bush/tree and one small lemon tree both planted from seeds I sprouted. I think I may see some fruit in about 5 years! LOL Its like watching paint dry but I love them and talk to them daily

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As long as they do not start answering you..... :-)

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If they can't complete their genocide with drugs/vaccines, poisoned food or "sky poisons" ... they are opting for attempting to starve us to death!!!

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Did you ask for comments from RFK Jr.?

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Sep 22Liked by Robert W Malone MD, MS

I have been needing a kickstart to eat better. Thank you for the information and actual science. I grew up in a smsll town with one local doctor. We only saw him if we were sick. He always recommended home remedies.

When my mother was dying last year she asked my sister if she still wanted the set of medical books that came with our encyclopedias in the 60's. I made my sister take them. They are a treasure trove of how doctors handled everything from the common cold to broken bones. These books were published in 1963 before drugs were the fix for everything. They are filled with COMMON SENSE solutions and ideas.

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Sep 23·edited Sep 23

I agree. My grandfather was a country doctor and I love reading his medical books, and diary, notes. My father remembers as a child, almost passing out from holding the ether mask while his father performed surgery on a patient lying on their dining room table!

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Sep 21Liked by Robert W Malone MD, MS

Thank you for the jog to buy organic fruits and vegetables, Dr. Malone. I’ve resisted for a long thinking that, by washing everything, I’m getting rid of the residue. I don’t buy many processed food products but probably more than I should. Your push may be just what I needed. Thanks!

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I asked Brave AI, Does washing produce remove all pesticides? AI replied, "Based on the provided search results, washing produce does not completely remove all pesticides. While washing with water or mild solutions like vinegar and water can remove some pesticide residues, it may not eliminate all of them.

Some pesticides, such as systemic pesticides, are absorbed into the plant and cannot be removed by washing alone. Additionally, the effectiveness of washing in removing pesticide residues may vary depending on factors like the type of produce, pesticide used, and washing method.

For example:

A study comparing different washing strategies found that washing with alkaline water or ultrasonic cleaning was effective in removing some pesticide residues, but not all (Tables 4 and 5 from “Effectiveness of Different Washing Strategies on Pesticide Residue Removal: The First Comparative Study on Leafy Vegetables - PMC”).

The FDA and USDA do not recommend washing produce with detergents or soaps, as these could be absorbed by or linger on the produce, potentially causing harm (snippet from “How to Series”).

A study on ultrasonic cleaning with a baking soda and water solution found it to be up to 92% effective in removing pesticide residue from cabbage, but this method may not be practical for most people due to the cost of ultrasonic cleaners (snippet from “How to Wash Vegetables and Fruits to Remove Pesticides”).

Food-grade bleach was found to be effective in removing pathogens from produce, but its use for pesticide removal is not recommended (snippet from “How to remove pesticides from fruits and vegetables? Is water washing enough - Quora”).

In summary, washing produce can remove some pesticide residues, but it is not a foolproof method for eliminating all pesticides. Other methods, such as choosing organic produce or using alternative washing solutions, may be necessary to minimize exposure to pesticides."

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So, just buy Organic and soak briefly in vinegar/water solution to remove parasites.

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Sep 21·edited Sep 21

Thanks for the inspiration. Just found a local farmer exchange market, not sure if it’s organic but we also eat less as we age so spending more money on quality for health and keeping up strength and energy is totally worth it. I remember a book years back that recommended not eating anything with ingredients your grandmother or you couldn’t recognize or pronounce.

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The farmers markets are growing. We support as much as possible and learning how to do as much as possible. Don't think we will have chickens or goats anytime soon though....

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Sep 22·edited Sep 22

Just ask. The more questions, the better.

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Excellent article Drs. Malone . Thank you for reinforcing that better eating equals better life. Yes, it’s hard at first but it pays off in spades. Keep up the good stuff. Looking forward to more farm life articles too! God Bless everyone 🙏🏻

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Can you share again what supplements you take on a daily basis?

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