The next President should get rid of the departments of energy, education, transportation, health and human services, housing and urban development, labor, commerce, agriculture and interior. None of that is the role of the federal government and whatever those departments do messes up those areas of our economy. The department of homela…
The next President should get rid of the departments of energy, education, transportation, health and human services, housing and urban development, labor, commerce, agriculture and interior. None of that is the role of the federal government and whatever those departments do messes up those areas of our economy. The department of homeland security should be told to totally secure our borders within one year or be folded into the department of defense which should then be given that assignment. The department of defense should remove all military personnel and equipment from all countries other than the US. The US should get out of NATO and the UN and ALL other world organizations, and stop funding them. That would be a start.
I like where you're going with this, but would include Homeland Security in the list of administrative organizations to dissolve. Ostensibly created as an overall administrative hub for our federal law enforcement and security services in response to the terrorist threat after 9/11, its purpose was to enable communication and coordination across agencies who were often competitive and at odds with one another.
What we have today is a Goliath that seeks to control all aspects of law enforcement and security. Under Obama they created their own Federal Homeland Security Police.
Why? The FBI ( which needs a complete housecleaning and overhall if they continue to exist) was intended to be the federal investigative body. Secret Service, US Marshall and myriad other federal and state law enforcement bodies already exist.
As you mentioned, The Department of Education needs to go as well. We really don't need the federal control that comes with federal dollars mucking up education. Bring it back down to state level, or even better, back to more localized control.
Right, the more local the better. But we're just dreaming aren't we? Nothing short of an armed rebellion could get it done. And while we certainly have more than 'muskets', they have much, much more than muskets.
I hope that a bunch of small victories will get us closer, at least, to where we want to be. I'm guessing the bottom up approach will be the winning strategy, because clearly working from the top down is just too daunting.
School boards, local elections, county positions, then working our way up the chain.
I'm in Southern California where the "fight or flight" conundrum is being felt by many. The bottom up strategy has been proven to work - by the left. Conservatives will find it difficult because our natures are not to inflict our will on others. We don't spend time thinking about making society different than it is. We just want to go to work, make some money, have our family and friends and live according to our beliefs and assume everyone else is doing the same thing. We've had a big awakening.
I'm in SoCal also. You are correct. As a conservative American, I really just want my government(s), including the administrative state, to just leave me alone and let me live my life, but they don't have it in them to do that. I'm not interested in inflicting my will on others. I want to live under the terms of The US Constitution.
In the sixties and seventies, we would have been called the "silent majority". Its past time for us to stop voting for the president every four years, then going to sleep with the hope that it will all work out.
If the past 2 years has taught me anything, its that we've been letting ourselves be manipulated and controlled. The plandemic has exposed much. Time to try to fix it.
"At some point, perhaps, no one will be able to deny what has happened and is happening still."
I'm afraid when that happens it will be too late. I agree we need to be reasonable and logical, but I don't know that calm and gentle are appropriate. Jesus was calm and gentle, but not when it came time to throw the pharisees out of the temple.
Dr. Larry Arnn, president of Michigan's Hillsdale College recently gave a presentation promoting that school's Barney School Initiative, an opportunity for children to receive actual learning in school v indoctrination and anti-American programming. Knoxville television and the World Socialist Web Site (wsws.org) picked up on Dr. Arnn''s comments, specifically his statement that educators are taught by the worst teachers and graduate with the most useless college degrees.
Of course, Dr. Arnn and governor Bill Lee (who listened to the speech and didn't condemn it) are being slammed by the media and teachers' organizations. This, of course, in spite of the fact that every word Dr. Arnn spoke was true.
Our society is run by loud-mouthed bullies, idiots, and fascists.
Yes. I think Dr. Malone is far too restrained as I quote below. The left would never hesitate to recommend cutting the head off the snake to kill it. We must do the same. Cut off the 3-letter agencies starting with their budgets and their management. (FDA, CDC, FBI, CIA, NSA, TSA for starters.) Hire management companies to keep their buildings from collapsing from when their employees go home until the buildings are sold or demolished. Malone was far to nice: "To the extent these administrators are able to be held to task, this accountability flows indirectly from congress. Their organizational budgets can be either enhanced or cut during following fiscal years, but otherwise they are largely protected from corrective action including termination of employment absent some major moral transgression."
There are some functions in some of these departments which are both useful and constitutional. For example, Dep't of Commerce produces the decennial census. Also, I suspect that the President wouldn't be able to abolish departments without Congressional approval. If s/he is respecting the Constitution.
None of which is to deny that a huge reduction in the mass of the Federal gov't would benefit the people.
Right. The President would have to "lead" the effort and would need majorities in the House and Senate but I think the route would be to defund the departments. The fact that a department is useful doesn't mean it is needed or that it isn't part of the swamp. Too much power is being given to these layers and layers of bureaucrats who are pretty much unaccountable for the damage they do.
The next President should get rid of the departments of energy, education, transportation, health and human services, housing and urban development, labor, commerce, agriculture and interior. None of that is the role of the federal government and whatever those departments do messes up those areas of our economy. The department of homeland security should be told to totally secure our borders within one year or be folded into the department of defense which should then be given that assignment. The department of defense should remove all military personnel and equipment from all countries other than the US. The US should get out of NATO and the UN and ALL other world organizations, and stop funding them. That would be a start.
I like where you're going with this, but would include Homeland Security in the list of administrative organizations to dissolve. Ostensibly created as an overall administrative hub for our federal law enforcement and security services in response to the terrorist threat after 9/11, its purpose was to enable communication and coordination across agencies who were often competitive and at odds with one another.
What we have today is a Goliath that seeks to control all aspects of law enforcement and security. Under Obama they created their own Federal Homeland Security Police.
Why? The FBI ( which needs a complete housecleaning and overhall if they continue to exist) was intended to be the federal investigative body. Secret Service, US Marshall and myriad other federal and state law enforcement bodies already exist.
As you mentioned, The Department of Education needs to go as well. We really don't need the federal control that comes with federal dollars mucking up education. Bring it back down to state level, or even better, back to more localized control.
Right, the more local the better. But we're just dreaming aren't we? Nothing short of an armed rebellion could get it done. And while we certainly have more than 'muskets', they have much, much more than muskets.
I hope that a bunch of small victories will get us closer, at least, to where we want to be. I'm guessing the bottom up approach will be the winning strategy, because clearly working from the top down is just too daunting.
School boards, local elections, county positions, then working our way up the chain.
I don't know. Nothing is impossible, I suppose.
I'm in Southern California where the "fight or flight" conundrum is being felt by many. The bottom up strategy has been proven to work - by the left. Conservatives will find it difficult because our natures are not to inflict our will on others. We don't spend time thinking about making society different than it is. We just want to go to work, make some money, have our family and friends and live according to our beliefs and assume everyone else is doing the same thing. We've had a big awakening.
I'm in SoCal also. You are correct. As a conservative American, I really just want my government(s), including the administrative state, to just leave me alone and let me live my life, but they don't have it in them to do that. I'm not interested in inflicting my will on others. I want to live under the terms of The US Constitution.
In the sixties and seventies, we would have been called the "silent majority". Its past time for us to stop voting for the president every four years, then going to sleep with the hope that it will all work out.
If the past 2 years has taught me anything, its that we've been letting ourselves be manipulated and controlled. The plandemic has exposed much. Time to try to fix it.
After 64 years in SoCal, I lost patience and moved to FL last year. I hated to leave but glad i did.
I Absolutely agree.
"At some point, perhaps, no one will be able to deny what has happened and is happening still."
I'm afraid when that happens it will be too late. I agree we need to be reasonable and logical, but I don't know that calm and gentle are appropriate. Jesus was calm and gentle, but not when it came time to throw the pharisees out of the temple.
Dr. Larry Arnn, president of Michigan's Hillsdale College recently gave a presentation promoting that school's Barney School Initiative, an opportunity for children to receive actual learning in school v indoctrination and anti-American programming. Knoxville television and the World Socialist Web Site (wsws.org) picked up on Dr. Arnn''s comments, specifically his statement that educators are taught by the worst teachers and graduate with the most useless college degrees.
Of course, Dr. Arnn and governor Bill Lee (who listened to the speech and didn't condemn it) are being slammed by the media and teachers' organizations. This, of course, in spite of the fact that every word Dr. Arnn spoke was true.
Our society is run by loud-mouthed bullies, idiots, and fascists.
And -- especially -- get out of WHO. Trump did that. Biden undid that.
Yes. I think Dr. Malone is far too restrained as I quote below. The left would never hesitate to recommend cutting the head off the snake to kill it. We must do the same. Cut off the 3-letter agencies starting with their budgets and their management. (FDA, CDC, FBI, CIA, NSA, TSA for starters.) Hire management companies to keep their buildings from collapsing from when their employees go home until the buildings are sold or demolished. Malone was far to nice: "To the extent these administrators are able to be held to task, this accountability flows indirectly from congress. Their organizational budgets can be either enhanced or cut during following fiscal years, but otherwise they are largely protected from corrective action including termination of employment absent some major moral transgression."
There are some functions in some of these departments which are both useful and constitutional. For example, Dep't of Commerce produces the decennial census. Also, I suspect that the President wouldn't be able to abolish departments without Congressional approval. If s/he is respecting the Constitution.
None of which is to deny that a huge reduction in the mass of the Federal gov't would benefit the people.
Right. The President would have to "lead" the effort and would need majorities in the House and Senate but I think the route would be to defund the departments. The fact that a department is useful doesn't mean it is needed or that it isn't part of the swamp. Too much power is being given to these layers and layers of bureaucrats who are pretty much unaccountable for the damage they do.